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The Links Thread

FixdePitchmark

So - how about a thread about Links Golf.

I know many will say - but it fits into other threads.

But (IMO) - it doesn't in many ways.
Be it , the best deals to play the classics,
the 8 iron from 90 yards.

I think we need our own thread (A Links Golf Thread) - (This is not an Epic Thread)

There is a small bunch of golfers here, that are in this links space. I hope we can build it into a group that play the big ones in Ireland and UK.

Let's face it, running around under pine trees and taking your ball out of a pitch mark is not every-bodies cup of tea.

So , be it, The Hillary Society ,links grass types, or whatever ?

this is The Links thread.

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BoldReason

Cheers will drop them a mail

paulos53

I just sent them an email and the competition days are already full

BoldReason

The open singles is full and they are not taking any more bookings on that. Still have some slots available for the 130euro non competition.

Same as above*

jarrieta

BoldReason wrote: »

The open singles is full and they are not taking any more bookings on that. Still have some slots available for the 130euro non competition.

Same as above*

Sent them an email at 7am and still no response and won't be able to call them

Benicetomonty

Emailed them myself, staging 3 comps but all booked up. Said there may be others over summer but cant bank on it I dont think. Oh well!

[Deleted User]

Not a links course but Mount Juliet are running Open Singles for a Week from 29th June. €50 for Visitors.

mike12

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not a links course but Mount Juliet are running Open Singles for a Week from 29th June. €50 for Visitors.

Is there not a danger that green fees and open competitions will be pushed back.

GolfNut33

mike12 wrote: »

Is there not a danger that green fees and open competitions will be pushed back.

Wouldn't be surprised at this stage TBH. The GUI have been very poor/weak.

[Deleted User]

mike12 wrote: »

Is there not a danger that green fees and open competitions will be pushed back.

Who knows. Green fees are allowed since Monday with a Member so that is something.

slave1

Exactly wrote: »

Not a links course but Mount Juliet are running Open Singles for a Week from 29th June. €50 for Visitors.

Same price as last year, nice course for 50 smackers

FixdePitchmark

Straight from Wiki - anyone think this is the right list - couple of ones we would not consider "true links courses".

I've had other things on the last few years - but do hope to play them all at some point (well most of them anyway) - not sure I've any interest in the second course (even if I know some are very good)

Also - think I will only play main ones in North also.

I've played 33 of the total 64 listed here. A long way to go - and a realistic timeline is another 7/8 years - and at that stage you need to start again to remember them.

Again a good few are not even links and the secondary courses are not my thing. I'm probably not so bad off if, non links and second course were removed as a goal. Bold are played.

Republic of Ireland
South West (Total 13 , 11 primary)

The 18th hole at the Old Head Golf Links on the Old Head of Kinsale
Ballybunion Golf Club – Old Course, Co Kerry
Ballybunion Golf Club – Cashen Course, Co Kerry
Castlegregory Golf & Fishing Club, Co Kerry
Dingle Golf Club, Co Kerry
Dooks Golf Club, Co Kerry
Doonbeg Golf Club, Co Clare
Lahinch Golf Club – Old Course, Co Clare
Lahinch Golf Club – Castle Course, Co Clare
Old Head of Kinsale, Co Cork
Spanish Point Golf Club, Co Clare
Tralee Golf Club, Co Kerry
Waterville Golf Club, Co Kerry

South East (Total 14, primary =12)

Arklow Golf Club, Co Wicklow
Corballis Links Golf Club, Co Dublin
The European Golf Club, Co Wicklow
The Island Golf Club, Donabate, Co Dublin
Laytown & Bettystown Golf Club, Co Meath
Portmarnock Golf Club – Championship Course, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
Portmarnock Golf Club – Yellow Course, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
Portmarnock Hotel & Golf Links, Portmarnock, Co Dublin
Rosslare Golf Club – Championship Course, Co Wexford
Rosslare Golf Club – Burrow Course, Co Wexford
Rush Golf Club, Co Dublin
St Anne's Golf Club, Co Dublin
Sutton Golf Club Co Dublin
Royal Dublin Golf Club, Co Dublin

North West (Total 23, Primary = 18)

Achill Island Golf Club, Co Mayo
Ballyliffin Golf Club – Glashedy Course, Co Donegal
Ballyliffin Golf Club – Old Course, Co Donegal
Bundoran Golf Club, Co Donegal
Carne Golf Club – Championship Course, Co Mayo
Carne Golf Club – Kilmore Course, Co Mayo
Connemara Golf Links, Co Galway
Connemara Isles Golf Club, Co Galway
County Sligo Golf Club – Championship Course, Co Sligo
County Sligo Golf Club – Bomore Course, Co Sligo
Cruit Island Golf Club, Co Donegal
Donegal Golf Club, Co Donegal
Dunfanaghy Golf Club, Co Donegal
Enniscrone Golf Club – Dunes Course, Co Sligo
Enniscrone Golf Club – Scurmore Course, Co Sligo
Gweedore Golf Club, Co Donegal
Mulranny Golf Club, Co Mayo
Narin & Portnoo Golf Club, Co Donegal
Northwest Golf Clubs, Co Donegal
Portsalon Golf Club, Co Donegal
Rosapenna Golf Club – Sandy Hills Course, Co Donegal
Rosapenna Golf Club – Old Tom Morris Course, Co Donegal
Strandhill Golf Club, Strandhill, Co Sligo

Northern Ireland (total = 14 , 8 if primary course)

Royal County Down
Ardglass Golf Club – Ardglass, County Down
Ballycastle Golf Club, Ballycastle, County Antrim
Bushfoot Golf Club, Portballintrae, County Antrim
Castlerock Golf Club – Mussenden Course, Castlerock, County Londonderry
Castlerock Golf Club – Bann Course, Castlerock, County Londonderry
Kirkistown Castle Golf Club, Cloughey, County Down
Portstewart Golf Club – Strand Course, Portstewart, County Londonderry
Portstewart Golf Club – Old Course, Portstewart, County Londonderry
Portstewart Golf Club – Riverside Course, Portstewart, County Londonderry
Royal County Down Golf Club – Championship Course, Newcastle, County Down
Royal County Down Golf Club – Annesley Course, Newcastle, County Down
Royal Portrush Golf Club – Dunluce Course, Portrush, County Antrim
Royal Portrush Golf Club – Valley Course (Rathmore), Portrush, County Antrim

Mushy

It better be right, I've had to update my excel list. Hopefully Arklow, Murvagh and 1 other in next 3 weeks

FixdePitchmark

Mushy wrote: »

It better be right, I've had to update my excel list. Hopefully Arklow, Murvagh and 1 other in next 3 weeks

As I said - it actually isn't right in an Irish Links sense.

Well they are courses that "Link" to the see - so some people think it is right - But.................

golfguy1

Waterville are offering golf in July for €75.
Best course I've played in Ireland.
Think it's great value

Benicetomonty

golfguy1 wrote: »

Waterville are offering golf in July for €75.
Best course I've played in Ireland.
Think it's great value

Where did you see this?

golfguy1

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Where did you see this?

A member of Waterville told me

Deporhostia

golfguy1 wrote: »

Waterville are offering golf in July for €75.
Best course I've played in Ireland.
Think it's great value

That’s amazing value....I emailed them just last week and they said it was €140 this summer.

As above, I’d love to know where you saw this

Edit: just seen reply. Is it member guest? Or GUI visitor? Or something else?

Benicetomonty

golfguy1 wrote: »

A member of Waterville told me

Will be an email in their inbox tomorrow morning so! Thanks for the heads up!

golfguy1

Deporhostia wrote: »

That’s amazing value....I emailed them just last week and they said it was €140 this summer.

As above, I’d love to know where you saw this

They are still booked out for September with American tourists. If they start to cancel as expected you will probably get most the Kerry links courses for max €100 each

golfguy1

Deporhostia wrote: »

That’s amazing value....I emailed them just last week and they said it was €140 this summer.

As above, I’d love to know where you saw this

Edit: just seen reply. Is it member guest? Or GUI visitor? Or something else?

The member didn't mention member guest.
I assume it will be gui/ilgu

Deporhostia

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Will be an email in their inbox tomorrow morning so! Thanks for the heads up!

Let us now how that goes please

mike12

The list of links looks a bit big think the 58 in the link below are the real links courses.

https://migrantgolfer.com/the-true-links-courses-of-the-world/

Benicetomonty

Waterville replied there. 75e rate only kicks in from November, as specified on website. Golfguy or possibly his member must have confused winter and summer rates. 140e til November

Mushy

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Waterville replied there. 75e rate only kicks in from November, as specified on website. Golfguy or possibly his member must have confused winter and summer rates. 140e til November

Disappointing! Wont be paying 140 for it myself

rooney30

Mushy wrote: »

Disappointing! Wont be paying 140 for it myself

It’s green fee is normally 250 . At 140 your getting a 45% discount , to play the course in its summer peak condition . Seems alright to me

Raisins

Co Louth - €100
The European - €100

GUI rates.

Mushy

rooney30 wrote: »

It’s green fee is normally 250 . At 140 your getting a 45% discount , to play the course in its summer peak condition . Seems alright to me

I meant next month, wont be able to splash out 140 on a round after travel costs

Whiplash85

I cant see how some of the top end golf courses are going to attract customers with €140 per person. I get that it is normally €250 but anything north of €100 is not very enticing to a domestic tourism market. A lot of these golf courses are built for American executives and high rollers who can easily part with €250 in green fees and another €250 in the pro shop buying golf apparel. I rang Adare earlier and it was €395 for a round. That is just insane. I predict golf courses in general will charge lower for green fees in the coming months and as we draw closer to 29th June there may be a shift.

thewobbler

Whiplash85 wrote: »

I cant see how some of the top end golf courses are going to attract customers with €140 per person. I get that it is normally €250 but anything north of €100 is not very enticing to a domestic tourism market. A lot of these golf courses are built for American executives and high rollers who can easily part with €250 in green fees and another €250 in the pro shop buying golf apparel. I rang Adare earlier and it was €395 for a round. That is just insane. I predict golf courses in general will charge lower for green fees in the coming months and as we draw closer to 29th June there may be a shift.

Let’s try this one in reverse.

What price point do you think a worldwide top 100 course should charge in peak season, that will both attract local golfers, but not see the product’s positioning damaged by an influx of bargain hunters?

There’s 300 courses in Ireland you can play cheap golf on. That’s not the market for these courses, even if you so, so want it to be.

Benicetomonty

thewobbler wrote: »

Let’s try this one in reverse.

What price point do you think a worldwide top 100 course should charge in peak season, that will both attract local golfers, but not see the product’s positioning damaged by an influx of bargain hunters?

There’s 300 courses in Ireland you can play cheap golf on. That’s not the market for these courses, even if you so, so want it to be.

I distinctly remember clubs like Waterville and Lahinch hosting open events for around 50e 5 or 6 years ago. You can play RCD for 50 pounds in July via Mourne golf club's open week. Dont see how the 'product positioning' has been damaged in any of those instances.
I would anticipate there may well be some movement on green fees here and there. Im sure the big links tracks have a few bob in reserves but theyl be hit hard by summer cancellations and incentives for locals is an easy way to make some of it back.

The fact that Old Head is hosting Open comps during July, something Ive never seen them do, would seem to back this up. There are very few Irish golfers that will pay 140e for a game of golf (not even a comp!) and there are even fewer that will do it twice. Throw in the remoteness of some of our major links venues and youre looking at a dearth of repeat customers because the fee combined with travel and an overnight stay (with the reality of a very restricted pub and nightlife scene) would make too many people unwilling to consider such an expedition. The likes of Portmarnock may be able to consider maintaining their fees but other clubs may have to relax them this summer as a once off.
I see Waterville have a reasonably new clubhouse to pay for as well. Money has to come from somewhere!