The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
ELM327 wrote: » to an Ionity hub, 4*350kW chargers without load sharing.
ELM327 wrote: » ecars is delivering nothing that could be compared to an Ionity hub, 4*350kW chargers without load sharing. I take the point earlier about it not being a strictly commercial company due to other interests but still, what they are installing is much better than anyone else except Tesla.
liamog wrote: » Can you share the details of the eCars hubs, I haven't found info on what exactly they are installing.
KCross wrote: » I know thats their goal, is it what is actually on the ground in Ireland? I thought they were not 350kW enabled yet and the sites were still supply limited even if the charger was capable?
liamog wrote: » By my reckoning that means they are look at rolling out 6x4 150kW, 16x 2 150kW and 34 150kW next to a 50kW charger. So a total of 90 150kW chargers across the country.
DermoMIO wrote: » Tesco Navan Road (Dublin) has a new slow charger installed in the car park not switched on though
liamog wrote: » Apparently eCars have been contracted to install a number of charging posts in Tesco stores.
ELM327 wrote: » Oh great, let me get my 3-6kWh while I shop. Pointless.
liamog wrote: » Hopefully they put the chargers near the front of the store, the only use for an AC charger whilst I'm doing a weekly (approx 40min) shop is to park closer to the door.
KCross wrote: » That was announced in Dechttps://www.esb.ie/tns/press-centre/2019/2019/12/20/tesco-and-esb-announce-nationwide-roll-out-of-charge-points-for-electric-vehicles-at-52-locations-across-the-country From the announcement above... The new ESB chargers will be 22kW dual chargers providing charging capacity to two vehicles simultaneously. If you only have a 3-6kW capable car its not alot of use. But if you have 11-22kW capable then it might be worth it. Some Tesco stores would also have other shops around it that you might spend longer than an hour there.
mp3guy wrote: » Really don't get this attitude. Our big shop takes about an hour typically, so in that time I can charge up my car with about 70km of range. The shop round trip is less than 30km. So I get 30km *free* fuel to the shop and then 40km bonus. You don't have to take the free energy if you don't want to.
liamog wrote: » I can't figure out any car that can cover 70km from an hour at a 22kW charger. Zoe would manage about 100km, I3 with 11kW charger is 55km. If I compare the savings against my night rate electricity (Energia @ 6.8c/kWh) for my car, my wife's car and my soon to be new Mini. e-Up! (3.3kW) 22.4c Ioniq 28 (6.6kW) 44.9c Mini (11kW) 74.8c At least with a Zoe (22kW) you'd save €1.50. I just don't see any practical use for AC charging at supermarkets for customers.
mp3guy wrote: » Kona w/ 11kW charger. Why spend all the effort working out and worrying that it's "only" €1.50 you "save"? It's free and convenient. Ignoring the times the space is unavailable, it's a reserved parking space with free fuel for your car. That's all that matters really. Saves you charging at home that night maybe, saves you charges in the long run, saves you time! Which you can't buy with money.
liamog wrote: » I can't figure out any car that can cover 70km from an hour at a 22kW charger. Zoe would manage about 100km
MJohnston wrote: » But these sums don’t make any sense at all—you’re already going to the supermarket either way, are you not? So you either take the free charge and save a bit of money or you don’t.
unkel wrote: » I usually get 23kW as the grid is typically 240V (240V * 3 phase * 32A = 23kW) Car uses about 20kWh/100km on average so well over 100km range for an hours charging (Tesla Model S with dual chargers) even after losses. Had it parked at Decathlon this afternoon and it took in 59kWh, and that was with tapering towards the end as it was 95% charged by the time I came back to it
unkel wrote: » It's the hassle and the duration. Most EVs charge at 7kW so if you're only doing weekly shop at Lidl (30 minutes), so take in just over 3kWh after losses, or a saving of just €0.24. An awful lot of hassle to get your cable in and out and to start and stop the charger. It would be quicker and easier to pick up a 1c coin from the ground, walk 20m and pick up another 1c coin, etc. until you have 24 one cent coins :pac: Would you do that too?
MJohnston wrote: » I have an i3 and I usually spend about 45 minutes doing a weekly shop, so yeah I definitely would do it. In fact I do it all the time at Tesco Liffey Valley. Pre-Covid the weekly shop would have been longer too as we’d usually grab some coffee at Costa before shopping.
DrPhilG wrote: » How many of you "I wouldn't be arsed with faffing around plugging in" are the same people who tell petrol heads that refueling is a doddle because it only takes me seconds to plug in at night?
MJohnston wrote: But these sums don’t make any sense at all—you’re already going to the supermarket either way, are you not? So you either take the free charge and save a bit of money or you don’t.
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