Junkyard Tom wrote: » So not using the flag of the disgraced Unionist government that was stood down by the British themselves and is cherished by unionist paramilitary mass-murderers is small-minded? I don't know what circles you move in, I live in Cork City, but I assure you that the Irish team walking behind that Loyalist rag would not go down well with the vast majority of Rugby fans. The Loyalist non-flag is rare enough to see when Ulster are playing in Belfast never mind inflicting it on the rest of us.
BloodyBill wrote: » Shur Cork tried to put a stop to opening Croke Park to other sports. Corks got a nasty enough little group of armchair Republicans who have never set foot in Northern Ireland
Junkyard Tom wrote: » Chooses Bloody Bill as a username, urges Irish people to be proud of the role some of us played in Britain's brutal empire, wouldn't have a problem with the Irish team marching behind the UVF's favourite flag. Something ain't right..
BloodyBill wrote: » Everyone doesnt follow your World view Junky. Southern Ireland has diverse views. From Dublin to West Cork, Clare to Louth. You try to portray us all.as being Partitionists or Republicans. Theres many views inbetween.
Most Southerners..below a line from Galway to Dublin...and theres a few million of us couldn't care less about the colours of Linfield and if the Irish team came out marching behind
My username is an interesting character from the American war of Independence. A obscure enough figure that didnt follow the marjority narrative.
munsterlegend wrote: » So nothing about the valid point actually raised about the flag? Are you the lad who brings the confederate flag to cork matches? Remember now it’s banned.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Funny that. To ingratiate yourself you just told somebody that there wan't a 'diverse view' in southern Ireland, in fact you said: I remember a certain infamous poster of fairly strident and belligerent Loyalist views who had a penchant for calling himself after famous Confederates. One wonders what the attraction and 'interest' is.
BloodyBill wrote: » Just a few observations from a lifelong rugby supporter from Munster. I come from a Fine Gael background. I'd be fairly conservative. Myself and a Limerick man watched the Irish rugby team walk out at the Olympic stadium in London. He says to me 'The Unionists wont be happy that they got shafted with the Ulster provincial GAA flag and we get our Tri colour.' I said I thought the official IRFU flag was grand. Its definitely a small minded effort by some eejit in the office up in Lansdowne Road. The second one about the Linfield Jersey. Well that's a funny one too. My brothers a farmer and we were out in a gym in the shed and we heard the sports news. 'Linfield wear UVF Colours'. Immediately I said what do you think of that. He said..' shouldn't be on the news'. Youd swear Linfield invented Purple and Orange. Even if they set put to copy the UVF colours..nobody should care. That's their business. I just want to reassure the Unionists boys on this forum. Most Southerners..below a line from Galway to Dublin...and theres a few million of us couldn't care less about the colours of Linfield and if the Irish team came out marching behind the Tricolor and the red and white Ulster flag we be grand with that. Less than 1 in 4 people vote for Sinn fein but they make about 75% of the noise.
BloodyBill wrote: » Shur 37% of people in Ireland would support Fine Gael going by the Irish Times poll. Fine Gael dont particularly push a United Ireland. I'd say most Southern Protestants would vote FG. Youd want to take off the Tin foil hat and play the ball and not the man. I dont have to justify my views to you. I just give my view and I debate or give an opinion. It's not within your power to enquiry about my username ,back round ect.
BloodyBill wrote: » Maybe in the future we ll have a totally new flag but until then we should have the IRFU flag only at the rugby and Hockey and the like.
FrancieBrady wrote: » 37% is most people? Maths not a strong point like a few others here who claimed 42% is a 'vast majority'. Why so protective about your username that you freely admitted was taken from a vicious Confederate. No skin off my nose, I find your use of it as 'interesting' as you find the the man.
munsterlegend wrote: » Well FG just signed up to a United Ireland division in the draft programme for govt. As to whether it amounts to anything is another issue. All Southern Protestants don’t want a United Ireland? News to me. Although if you listen to others on here you’d think we have no Protestants down south at all.
downcow wrote: » GAA has a long way to go to become inclusive and diverse. If those in control in the GAA have similar views to many of the posters on here, then I despair. You cannot fix something if you do not even realise that it's brokenhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/its-not-political-its-about-racism-i-was-so-angry--antrim-ladies-footballer-dahunsi-calls-on-gaa-for-support-1004239.html Thankfully there are some more progressive and more aware voices in there here is what of them tweeted today She tweeted: “Very disappointed with the lack of response by the GAA, LGFA and Camogie assoc to the anti-racism movement. Missed opportunity to pledge to further promote an inclusive environment. Citing being a ‘non-political organisation’ not good enough when basic human rights at issue.” This is very healthy when someone has the balls to stand up to the sectarian racist bigots who are in control. Fair play to her
BloodyBill wrote: » My username is Bloody Bill Cunningham. He wasnt a Confederate you simpleton
BloodyBill wrote: » But in fairness they keep their heads down as they have done since the foundation of the State. That's shown in the way that they are under represented in the Guards ect
BonnieSituation wrote: » So the programme for government has been released:https://static.rasset.ie/documents/news/2020/06/programmeforgovernment-june2020-final.pdf Page 104 is where the "Shared Island" section related to the "Unity Unit" starts. Nothing too shocking, but enough there for Unionists to bloviate I'd imagine.
BonnieSituation wrote: » So we have a tangible statement in the PfG about the wishes for a shared united Ireland and nothing at all from the Partitionists who normally harp on about how "no one in the South wants a UI". It's almost like they were talking rubbish.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You better keep him off the internet so. The factual history of Linfield resides there. Nuggets of sectarianism and bigotry saw their fans invade a pitch and break an opposing player's leg (I'm sure club management claimed it was a 'coincidence he was a taig') the opposing team withdrew from the competition. Uefa also ruled at one point that your friend's grandfather's team play a home leg as far away as Holland to try to keep their vicious sectarian support away from a game. Was your 'friend' unaware of the violent history?
jh79 wrote: » 20+ years later and we are going to have a look at the logistics of an UI in a so far undefined manner. As a barometer of the want of an UI in the republic, i'd be disappointed as a republican. That section of the PfG has barely got a mention in the media either.
Shefwedfan wrote: » and one day in band camp....
downcow wrote: » Oh deary me. Man City are now designing their shirts in the Uvf colours. And they have even got a sash. Dirty orange barstewartshttps://www.prodirectsoccer.com/p/nike-manchester-city-2018-19-vapor-match-3rd-ss-shirt-mens-replica-shirts-night-purple-188695/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuc_q4o2H6gIVQvhRCh3mzwkmEAQYAiABEgJ4Y_D_BwE
downcow wrote: » you and Eire4 are doing it again. I was very clear that I do not support Linfield, or for that matter any Irish league team. I am not interested in scrolling back to get the verbatim, but as soon as I said I supported Chelsea (loosely), Eire4 said something along the lines of - isn't it interesting that Chelsea is also a racist team. So you guys can stop dancing around suggesting nothing was implied. I haven't heard anybody deal with the racism and the GAA. My local club got hammered recently for giving serious abuse to a young black player and I see you guys are in the press again today for your treatment of a young BAME one who is trying to play gaa but taking serious abuse because of her colour. I think you should forget about Chelsea get your own house in order
FrancieBrady wrote: » downcow...don't make a bigger disingenuous fool of yourself over this. Everyone knows it wasn't a co-incidence.
downcow wrote: » Where did our poster go that was going to offer gems that would prove that the linfield board and supporters selected these colours to honour the UVF. He seems to have gone to ground. And now man city have exactly the same shirt. Francie thinks if you repeat something often enough it becomes true. Unfortunately this story is unravelling for the super-observant Republicans
eire4 wrote: » Nothing implied at all. You mentioned that you support Chelsea and I simply stated that is interesting as also Chelsea are well know to have a racist core support just like Linfield. That is simply the way things that Chelsea are well know for having a far right racist core support base. I am not implying anything by that just stating what is the case and your certainly as I replied earlier well entitled to support such a team that's your personal preference.
RobMc59 wrote: » Chelsea do have an undesirable following of hooligans but the club itself based in affluent west London is actually well respected.
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