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Life is too short

Ohio9

Strongly considering emigrating. I'm 23 years old. I cannot see a positive future here being punished for everything due to stupidity of the government.

Things that I lose compared to older generations:

1. More tax
2. Unaffordable housing: cannot afford a house in Dublin therefore I must move out and commute but here is the deal. You get punished for travelling to work with carbon taxes, inefficient public transport... which are going to quadruple very soon.
3. Diminishing returns: get absolutely demolished with taxation after certain point. So much so that it is not worth earning more for the effort required.

I believe there are far more reasonable solutions rather than punishing regular person who just wants to go to work and doesn't have another option.

I have 2 friends who have moved to California working for big internationals.

1. They make 3 times as me. Even with high taxation of California (Still much lower compared to Ireland)
2. No bull**** taxes punishing the average Joe, at least not crippling.
3. Medical insurance sponsored by the company
4. Not punished for travelling to work.
5. Cheaper housing in other states (Texas) this is where my company is headquartered.
6. Cheap cars and fuel and all other expenses cheaper with significantly higher salaries. I do not need to pay €3000 to insure a car.

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Squeeonline

Go. Get the experience. Never turn down something that will let you grow.

Just be warned, that your health insurance is tied to your job. If you lose your job, or quit you are suddenly uninsured in a country with a third world health care system for the uninsured. (i.e. you are on your own. Obviously the standard of care is great, but you will be paying off medical debt for decades should anything happen)

Roger the cabin boy

Ireland is paradise.

[Deleted User]

With the Greens in now most people who can emigrate should really look at doing so as there’s no way of life going forward. It’s just not nearly as easy as it used to be though unfortunately.
I’d be looking at Canada over the US though. The latter is just gone too much of a **** show.

weldoninhio

Ohio9 wrote: »

Haven't moved yet, just considering.

You say life is too short, then also the above.

Procrastination is the thief of time.

Keyzer

Ohio9 wrote: »

Strongly considering emigrating. I'm 23 years old. I cannot see a positive future here being punished for everything due to stupidity of the government.

Things that I lose compared to older generations:

1. More tax
2. Unaffordable housing: cannot afford a house in Dublin therefore I must move out and commute but here is the deal. You get punished for travelling to work with carbon taxes, inefficient public transport... which are going to quadruple very soon.
3. Diminishing returns: get absolutely demolished with taxation after certain point. So much so that it is not worth earning more for the effort required.

I believe there are far more reasonable solutions rather than punishing regular person who just wants to go to work and doesn't have another option.

I have 2 friends who have moved to California working for big internationals.

1. They make 3 times as me. Even with high taxation of California (Still much lower compared to Ireland)
2. No bull**** taxes punishing the average Joe, at least not crippling.
3. Medical insurance sponsored by the company
4. Not punished for travelling to work.
5. Cheaper housing in other states (Texas) this is where my company is headquartered.
6. Cheap cars and fuel and all other expenses cheaper with significantly higher salaries. I do not need to pay €3000 to insure a car.

You should probably do a bit more research on this before moving...

The grass is always greener.

FFVII

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

With the Greens in now most people who can emigrate should really look at doing so as there’s no way of life going forward. It’s just not nearly as easy as it used to be though unfortunately.
I’d be looking at Canada over the US though. The latter is just gone too much of a **** show.

The greens yea.

El Tarangu

OP seems to be banned - maybe he left already...

newuser99999

I have to laugh when I see people recommending Canada as an alternative to Ireland.

PhilOssophy

El Tarangu wrote: »

OP seems to be banned - maybe he left already...

Trump didn't let him in AFAIK.

Donadea Leo

People always leave for the wrong reasons, you should leave because somewhere is great, not because where you are is crap. The view that anywhere is better than here is always going to be wrong. You can't describe what you didn't observe. If you move and it's better then great you have evidence, but from my experience the tax you pay, how much you make, what the cost of healthcare had little to do with how good it is to live there.
I ve lived in great places earning a pittance, living in what would pass for a garden shed and blowing the little money on a top notch social life, great when you re young and single, I ve also moved out to suburbs where you get a decent house, garden, respectable (not always friendly or nice) neighbours, but the social life sucks, theres no affordable transport to sustain the great social life and it can really suck, but if you re a little older, burned out from partying or have different priorities then it's fine.
Decide what's important for you, what's your priority but remember you can't have it all, if you expect it all from where you live, then you ll always be disappointed and everywhere you go will be a $#%&hole.

olestoepoke

newuser99999 wrote: »

I have to laugh when I see people recommending Canada as an alternative to Ireland.

Why? I have plenty of relatives and friends doing really well for themselves in Canada. One couple in particular couldn't get ahead here at all. Were refused a mortgage for several years and moved to Canada and now own their own home,e and are doing really well.

newuser99999

olestoepoke wrote: »

Why? I have plenty of relatives and friends doing really well for themselves in Canada. One couple in particular couldn't get ahead here at all. Were refused a mortgage for several years and moved to Canada and now own their own home,e and are doing really well.

If you think class sizes in schools here are bad, if you think third level education is expensive here, if you think the wealth divide is large here, or public transport here is bad you’re in for a big surprise in Canada.

HBC08

Potential-Monke wrote: »

As someone who, at 37, is now too old to get a working visa for a lot of countries, I have massive regret for not fecking off. I was considering Canada or Japan, but i'm too old for both now (35 is the cut off). Not sure about other countries, but not fecking off is up there with some of the worst decisions of my life so far. Do it OP, get out, experience life, and you can always come back.

If you have a degree there are many countries where there are no real age restrictions S.Korea for example.

olestoepoke

newuser99999 wrote: »

If you think class sizes in schools here are bad, if you think third level education is expensive here, if you think the wealth divide is large here, or public transport here is bad you’re in for a big surprise in Canada.

I have close friends and relatives living in Edmonton, Toronto and Calgary and in 20 years have never heard them complain about the public transport or the schools, quite the opposite actually. Ill give you the 3rd level education I have heard complaints about the costs of that.

newuser99999

olestoepoke wrote: »

I have close friends and relatives living in Edmonton, Toronto and Calgary and in 20 years have never heard them complain about the public transport or the schools, quite the opposite actually. Ill give you the 3rd level education I have heard complaints about the costs of that.

And I’ve lived there. Your friends and relatives are in some of the biggest cities in Canada. That’s like saying public transport in Ireland is grand because Dublin has a luas.

olestoepoke

newuser99999 wrote: »

And I’ve lived there. Your friends and relatives are in some of the biggest cities in Canada. That’s like saying public transport in Ireland is grand because Dublin has a luas.

So don't go to Canada because public transport is only good in the cities where you emigrate to?

newuser99999

olestoepoke wrote: »

So don't go to Canada because public transport is only good in the cities where you emigrate to?

More like if you think Dublin is bad it’s the exact same in the bigger cities of Canada. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

olestoepoke

newuser99999 wrote: »

More like if you think Dublin is bad it’s the exact same in the bigger cities of Canada. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side.

Simply not true.

newuser99999

olestoepoke wrote: »

Simply not true.

That’s your opinion.

olestoepoke

newuser99999 wrote: »

That’s your opinion.

No not my opinion. The opinion of the many families I know that live and work in Canada's cities.

Wompa1

Go for it. You'll likely return to Ireland in your 30's with a new found appreciation for the place.

All that glitters is not gold.

As someone else pointed out, your friends in California are not telling you the full story if that's what your take away was from them.

I'm not so sure I'd move to the US right now with the pandemic and riots going on. Maybe it would be a good time to start planning for a move in a year or two instead.

Good luck.