Feisar wrote: » Is this not one of those times where we collectively say: Darwin Award. Do not fúck about with someone with a gun unless you have a bigger one.
lawrencesummers wrote: » I’m pretty sure the prize that goes with a Darwin Award shouldn’t be death.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Another fact that people are not considering here is the range of a Taser is 25 feet. Considering he was a few car lengths away when the shot was fired he was at the limit of the range If not outside it for the non lethal weapon. Against a cop wearing a bullet proof vest that wouldn’t have transmitted the electric anyway. That’s not to even mention it was being fired by a drunk person, running in the opposite direction The taser wasn’t a danger to the Cop if he took stock of the situation.
joseywhales wrote: » He grabbed the tazer because he was afraid he was about to get tazered so he grabbed it, it's a very human reaction to being electrocuted, he is dead because of the incompetence of the police primarily, they looked as fit as a a bunch of sloths in comparison to the man they were trying to arrest.
JJayoo wrote: » This is getting a little bit pathetic
Feisar wrote: » Not really, if the same incident happened here he’d have been chased down and received a few licks of a baton or arrested later. Over there, dead. Over what is really a Mickey Mouse offence.
weldoninhio wrote: » Didn’t happen over here though.
weldoninhio wrote: » So why not throw it away?? You seem to know an awful lot about what he was thinking. Electrocuted = dead. I think you mean shocked.
joseywhales wrote: » I mean electrocuted thanks to injure or kill somebody by passing electricity through their bodyhttps://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/electrocute He didn't throw it away because it was the only thing he had to defend himself, remember he ran away, he didn't run toward them with the tazer
jam_mac_jam wrote: » I would say the other factor, apart from the empathy is the huge influence of US politics in the last few years in Ireland. Possibly because of social media. Both sides right and left. Nobody I knew would have supported Bush in real life or on message boards, or the proportion would be tiny. Yet the support for Trump that you hear is surprising in a European country. I think the overall attitude has seriously shifted to be more left/ right camps rather then looking at the issue. So if you are in the right camp then the police can do no wrong. If you are left you cannot question immigration. So that could have an impact on the response over time. Not arguing that it's not empathy as well. I do think polarisation is also a factor.
vetinari wrote: » Yeah, it's pretty stunning compared to say 10 years ago. I left Ireland in 2006, been in Boston since. No one cared anywhere near this level of detail about internal US politics or incidents in 2006. I do wonder if some of the posters on this site are actually Russian bots though. Also, having such strong pro police opinions about shootings when the Gardai are for the most part unarmed. They're so similar to far right posters you'd see on reddit. They seem very out of place for Ireland considering the makeup of the Irish political parties.
vetinari wrote: » They're so similar to far right posters you'd see on reddit. They seem very out of place for Ireland considering the makeup of the Irish political parties.
Niner leprauchan wrote: » Because they dont kill or because they were certain that he would respect the use of force continuum and not repeatedly shock them over and over until the battery went?
Rodin wrote: » He actually discharged the tazer at the cop. Got what he deserved.
Overheal wrote: » So the death penalty for assaulting a police officer?
Danzy wrote: » He was defending himself?
Overheal wrote: » If one drunk perp can stungun 2 officers and kill 1 with it before they can subdue them, then they certainly appear to be inadequately trained for the real world.
ronivek wrote: » And not just the death penalty (for which there are ways to subsequently avoid it); but summary execution decided by a single man.
nullzero wrote: » Maybe they need more funding to remedy this problem?
JJayoo wrote: » https://youtu.be/yfi3Ndh3n-g Very good video If someone can embed.
