BonnieSituation wrote: » So Chelsea aren't an infamously racist club because you supported since you were 6? FWIW my dad has been supporting them since the 60s as is his way to being a contrarian shít in a house full of Man U and Everton fans and I relish highlighting their bigotry to annoy him. No one is calling you a racist for supporting Chelsea, but it's disingenuous to get offended at them being called a racist club. They are famous for it. I'm a Shelbourne fan as it happens for any balance.
eire4 wrote: » Partial to Bohemians myself:)
Shefwedfan wrote: » Why would I ally with downcow? Your constant lying is tiresome just to make a point Even in the most recent survey of the top sports in Ireland soccer came out ahead of rugby. I Want an example, look at the soccer forum on here, so maybe start telling the truth....
BonnieSituation wrote: » The Ulster Flag. --- They have started to use the Tricolour and Ulster Flag in tandem now as was the case in stadia during the RWC in Japan.
eire4 wrote: » FYI I just added in the bit about the Yellow in terms of the Ulster flag so there was no confusion about exactly what flag I was talking about:)
munsterlegend wrote: » Not worth a response as it’s the truth. Tricolours burned and cheered every year by everyone in attendance. Lack of educational opportunities leads to such ignorance. Loyalist areas have been made fools of by their elected representatives.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Fair. But I mean, if some people on this thread don't know the difference between the "Ulster Flag" and the "Ulster Banner" then maybe they should brush up on those sorts of things.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I never said it was more popular than soccer...don't be shifting. I contested your bull**** stereotypical nonsense about it.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Another topic, more nonsense. Do you even remember what I said? round and round the merry go round
What are we going on about here lads and ladies? walk around any town and village and if you see a sports jersey on a person 99% of the time it is an English soccer team. Walk into a pub and ask to put on the rugby when Premiership is on and you will get a look and told to go over to the 12" thing in the cornor. Now we are suddenly talking about how we are Ireland such patriotic sports fans? Most pubs will only play the GAA becaue they have the soccer blaring out on another TV in the cornor. Pro 14 game in the rugby? your having a laugh. I have gone all around the country, walked into pubs and hotels and asked if they will stick on the rugby. "Oh we dont have those channels but we do have Charlton v Sh**ty UTd on tonight"
BonnieSituation wrote: » You imagine that the average GAA fan in the North are that petty? This is an organisation that changed the timing of a Dublin match in 2016 to avoid clashing with Ireland v France at the Euros? And not only that out that soccer match on the big screen in Croke Park that day as well. Yeah, the GAA are the ones here who will be up in arms clashing with the Irish League. Seems funny they never complained about rugby or League of Ireland being played on Sundays before, but would start up moaning when the Irish League joins the 20th century? Give over.
downcow wrote: » It’s munsterlegend that raised it and is complaining. Ifa votes 91-14 for Sunday football to be allowed. So stop twisting and talking nonsense
jm08 wrote: » If you heard the spewing of hate of Ian Paisley Snr. in his early years, you would understand where it all comes from. This documentary made by Radharc in 1964 prior to it all kicking off will give you a little insight into the troubles.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhqP90uaro
downcow wrote: » There was an inference being made because I support them. Look back it’s evident.
Yeah_Right wrote: » The course was the History of Modern Conflicts. One semester was Ireland, the other was Palestine. The main focus of the Irish semester was 1916 to 1995 (the year I was studying it). We did spend the first couple weeks studying the background of the conflict going back to cover Cromwell, the Boyne, Plantation, the Famine etc.
downcow wrote: » yeah=right just take care watching a single documentary that is recommended to you on here. The issues are very complex, and we will all disagree about how/when it kicked off. I suggest you do your best to watch some material from both sides and also some stuff produced by supposedly neutral academics. It's not simple, and I certainly would not lay even the majority of the blame at either door.
downcow wrote: » I don’t think either does it to stop the other. But that’s the impact of the gaa decision. I’m not saying they are wrong. That’s just the impact.Actually I imagine if football was moved to Sunday there would be complaints from gaa about taking their players and supporters
BloodyBill wrote: » As a fellow Munsterman who's actually lived in east Belfast I must say that you are wrong. I met many people from a loyalist background and they were nothing but nice. Very friendly and genuine. I didnt feel any hatred. I think they see Southerners as more like honest brokers and less dogmatic than Northern Nationalists. Theres just as many clowns on the Republican side as the Loyalist and that is for sure As for Amhrann na Bhfiann ,well it's a brutal Natiknal Anthem. I remember well standing to attention before playing hurling matches and listening to a song in a language few people understood. The sooner it goes the better. I respect it and stand straight facing the flag but if there is a United Ireland in a 100 years or so then I ll be happy to see that rubbish song going.
munsterlegend wrote: » How you can be a Chelsea supporter and not know their links with Combat 18 and of course the infamous chelsea headhunters? It’s no wonder Chelsea had a lot of Linfield supporters. Birds of a feather..
eire4 wrote: » I would also mention when the Irish Rugby team plays outside of Ireland the team plays under a version of the Irish 4 provinces flag with the IRFU logo in the middle. This is the only flag used. For matches played in Dublin the Irish tricolour and the yellow flag of Ulster are also flown alongside the IRFU version of the 4 provinces flag.
downcow wrote: » Yes this was the final insult. We have two countries playing. Could you give me any justification why the flag of one country was flown and then the flag of a province was flown alongside it. The answer is clear. They just could not stomach a flag that had any association with Northern Ireland being flown. Oh I would love to say what I know one of the Irish players said their coach when this happened. But I would be breaking confidence. Suffice to say they Northern Ireland guys were completely pissed off by this
downcow wrote: » you and Eire4 are doing it again. I was very clear that I do not support Linfield, or for that matter any Irish league team. I am not interested in scrolling back to get the verbatim, but as soon as I said I supported Chelsea (loosely), Eire4 said something along the lines of - isn't it interesting that Chelsea is also a racist team. So you guys can stop dancing around suggesting nothing was implied. I haven't heard anybody deal with the racism and the GAA. My local club got hammered recently for giving serious abuse to a young black player and I see you guys are in the press again today for your treatment of a young BAME one who is trying to play gaa but taking serious abuse because of her colour. I think you should forget about Chelsea get your own house in order
BonnieSituation wrote: » You guys? And you say you're even handed eh?
downcow wrote: » Yes this was the final insult. We have two countries playing. Could you give me any justification why the flag of one country was flown and then the flag of a province was flown alongside it???? The answer is clear. They just could not stomach a flag that had any association with Northern Ireland being flown.
Suffice to say they Northern Ireland guys were completely pissed off by this
downcow wrote: » GAA has a long way to go to become inclusive and diverse. If those in control in the GAA have similar views to many of the posters on here, then I despair. You cannot fix something if you do not even realise that it's brokenhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/its-not-political-its-about-racism-i-was-so-angry--antrim-ladies-footballer-dahunsi-calls-on-gaa-for-support-1004239.html
BonnieSituation wrote: » The Ulster Banner has no legal standing and is incredibly offensive to a large proportion of the population of this island, especially northern nationalists. The Ulster Flag has no offensive connotations and is a positive symbol in the context of Irish Rugby. It's clear why those two flags are used. To suggest otherwise is the latest in a long line of the "world against downcow" instances on this thread.
downcow wrote: » Yes absolutely disgusting. Either use the two flags associated with each country or else use the four provinces flags. They really did rub our noses in it with this
BonnieSituation wrote: » The Ulster Banner has no legal standing and is incredibly offensive to a large proportion of the population of this island, especially northern nationalists. The Ulster Flag has no offensive connotations and is a positive symbol in the context of Irish Rugby. It's clear why those two flags are used. To suggest otherwise is the latest in a long line of the "world against downcow" instances on this thread. Oh I would love to say what I know one of the Irish players said their coach when this happened. But I would be breaking confidence. I'm sure you have the inside track on this.
