Danzy wrote: » Doesn't mean that they are expandable. Their lives secondary to the latest social concerns of the bourgeoisie.
Righty wrote: » I'm sorry but have you actually watched the bodycam footage? Clearly shows he is sitting in line for the drive thru, how do you get into a line of a drive thru without driving?
ronivek wrote: » I mean it looks like your fundamental belief is that anyone who has a negative interaction with police deserves to die; and it's their own fault for not obeying. In particular if you don't really like that individual; you're perfectly okay with them dying. Is there any police shooting or interaction you've seen which you find the behaviour of the officers to be in question? Or is it just your default to blindly support the "working class"?
Overheal wrote: » Nobody said their lives are expendable. Neither cops life was in danger of being expended when they chose to escalate to deadly force.
yourdeadwright wrote: » I'd disagree a violent man with a taser, trying to shoot them is danger
Overheal wrote: » It’s danger it’s not deadly force.
Overheal wrote: » Everyone should be in agreement that the arrest was fully warranted.
Overheal wrote: » To be fair he could have been getting her nuggets. Nuggets have a cult following in the US.
NotMOL wrote: » Nuggets near midnight? hahahaah
Overheal wrote: » Nuggets allll the time. Wendy’s stays open to 2am in almost urban areas if not later. They got that spicy nugget life with the siracha sauce, and it’s a bargain
Danzy wrote: » No, but the target is so much bigger and the mass will stop the bullet travelling. Bullet will go through the most of a leg easily. So you are aiming at a target an Olympic shooter might miss and if you hit, it may have no effect and the bullet might bounce off the tarmac.
NotMOL wrote: » Spicy nuggets sound delicious...is there anywhere in Ireland that sells them?
declanflynn wrote: » fire 3 or 4 times at the upper body and miss do u think the bullet stops?
Danzy wrote: » No, I'd be quite severe on cops in Ireland and America at times. Much of the senior force here were and are deeply corrupt. American police are often in power trips and they are militarized in a way no peace time police should be. This is a clear cut case, he fired a weapon and he is dead. I got banned from politics ie for pointing out that the killer of Hugh Hehir, being so **** to that man's partner caught up with him. I'm not uncritical of the police or blindly for them by any means. When you use weapons , anything can happen. Brooks paid that price.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Posters keep repeating that he “fired at police” while conveniently omitting that he fired and missed with a non lethal weapon It’s the same if he had thrown a knife, or a bat, or a rock. Sure that could kill but in reality it doesn’t.
Danzy wrote: » I got banned from politics ie for pointing out that the killer of Hugh Hehir, being so **** to that man's partner caught up with him.
vetinari wrote: » There are two points that get raised again and again here that are completely bad faith arguments. 1) A taser could have killed or seriously injured the cop. The people arguing this don't really believe this. They probably have no issue with a cop using a taser. 2) The US has far more guns so this police stop is totally different to Ireland. The police in his situation had done a pat down for weapons. Brooks might still have had a weapon hidden on him but now within easy reach. The cop who shot him knew it was a taser that was being pointed at him. Disturbingly there are a lot of people here to view shooting someone as justifiable if they aim a taser at you.
punisher5112 wrote: » Eh no he still had the weapon and it can be used again and again and .......
ronivek wrote: » What? You're saying you're critical of the shooting dead of Hugh Hehir; the IRA terrorist whose gang fired shots from an AK-47 at Gardai during the commission of an armed robbery? But not some guy who failed to successfully use a taser and was running away from police?
Danzy wrote: » He took a shot, they took one back. He lost. Pity he didn't drop it and accept the consequences but his choice.
Mattdhg wrote: » https://youtu.be/DOiKgmCJwls To be fair, it does look like the police were being reasonable enough until he started to struggle with the arrest. I guess the racism itself might come into play there as we've all been in situations where there was a nod and a wink and you're told to be on your way carefully. They could have handled the arrest a bit smoother all the same, like talking more about it before going to handcuff him. For anyone who doesn't want to watch the body cam footage, he says he was at his daughters birthday and his girlfriend dropped him back to the parking lot to drive himself home. He says he fell asleep in the car because he wasn't feeling well, and claims to have only drank 1.5 margaritas. He said he could just walk to his sisters house and to forget about the charge etc, but after a breathalyser they go to arrest him...
Overheal wrote: » He took one non lethal shot they took three lethal shots You can’t even stick to the basic facts??
Danzy wrote: » They are trained to triple. Whether they took 1 or 7, he set the train in motion.
