froog wrote: » i admire your optimism, i don't share that confidence. and yeah, if the guy was white it wouldn't be a story. because black people are much more likely to be shot dead than white people and it's a few weeks after a white cop murdered an unarmed black guy on camera while 3 of his buddies stood by.
Non solum non ambulabit wrote: » This is what I don't get. Why are US cops so intent on shooting and wrestling with guys that are attempting to escape when 1). They know who he is and 2). They know he is no threat to anyone and can be picked up in the morning. Every day simple policing situations get blown up into fatal events that destroy lives on both sides for nothing. These cops are obviously very poorly trained. The victim is often white. My comments are not race related.
Non solum non ambulabit wrote: » This is what I don't get. Why are US cops so intent on shooting and wrestling with guys that are attempting to escape when 1). They know who he is and 2). They know he is no threat to anyone and can be picked up in the morning. Every day simple policing situations get blown up into fatal events that destroy lives on both sides for nothing. These cops are obviously very poorly trained.
Granadino wrote: » Why not just let him run? Where was he going to get to? His car was left behind. They had that. Stupid American cop over reaction.
froog wrote: » i think you're confusing me with another poster. the guy clearly drunk drove, resisted arrest and stole the cops taser. also has previous convictions. he deserved to be arrested and jailed/prosecuted. he didn't deserve to be shot dead.
Danzy wrote: » He was in the drive thru lane, asleep, drunk at the wheel.
Rows Grower wrote: » And most black people are shot dead by other black people, not by white cops, not by white people.
Pythagorean wrote: » The journal .ie had a recent report about Garda detectives surrounded by 15 youths who attacked them, and tried to throw them under an approaching car. One of the detectives said that he felt that one of the assailants had attempted to take his gun. So we in this country may not be as immune to these situations as we might like to think we are.
NotMOL wrote: » You are missing the point which has been made a million times ITT, Ireland and America are completely different when it comes to guns. Cops are regularly shot at and killed in America. Also you and others defending him keeping leaving out the point were he was drunk behind the wheel, you make it seem like he was just having a nap outside the burger shop
Danzy wrote: » Statistical evidence shows us he would be more likely to be shot dead.
Donald Trump wrote: » If he was "white" and resisted arrest, ran away and fired the taser at the cop, yeah I reckon he'd have been shot. The main difference, had he been white, would be that you wouldn't hear about the story in Ireland and there wouldn't be a thread on it on boards.ie
AbusesToilets wrote: » The hoops folks are jumping through here to justify the actions of a pretty ****ty person are astounding.
AbusesToilets wrote: » What would have happened if he hadn't attacked two cops?
froog wrote: » do you think if the guy in the US was white he would still have been shot dead?
NotMOL wrote: » But you make it seem like he was innocent and the cops were called for him just having a sleep outside the burger shop
declanflynn wrote: » he was asleep outside a burger shop
Overheal wrote: » What would have happened if he wasn’t killed that he had to be put down then and there?
punisher5112 wrote: » And what if he uses the taser on another officer or breaks into a home...... Seriously he was under arrest they can't be letting people run off with their weapons.
punisher5112 wrote: » That's your opinion. Imo it was warranted.
AbusesToilets wrote: » Except for the part where he turned around and fired at the cop again, at which point he was shot. You keep forgetting to include that detail. Running away doesn't magically make you immune from the consequences of your actions. If I attack a cop with a weapon, he doesn't lose the right to respond because I show a clean pair of heels. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
NotMOL wrote: » 38 officers shot to death in the space of 50 weekshttps://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/07/us/2019-officers-killed-trnd/index.html
froog wrote: » you're fine with someone getting shot dead for waving a baton around. okay.
froog wrote: » i never even commented on him drunk driving. because its completely irrelevant to whether it was right to shoot him dead.
declanflynn wrote: » this guy was running away not attacking the cop
AbusesToilets wrote: » You attack a cop with a weapon, expect to get shot. Would you any less dead if I crack you across the head with a baton? Michael Brown attacked a cop and tried to take his gun, yet folks acted like he was gunned down in the street. The majority of shootings by cops in the US are justifiable, something folks like you are no doubt loath to admit.
punisher5112 wrote: » They were afraid to use it as they would end up been the ones in trouble which is nuts.... Remember watching a clip of the troubles up north and two British soldiers in a car were traveling between bases I believe, they had their side arms but when surrounded by a non and taken out of the car and the guns used against them, they didn't shoot at anyone and died for holding back.
