Pythagorean wrote: » The journal .ie had a recent report about Garda detectives surrounded by 15 youths who attacked them, and tried to throw them under an approaching car. One of the detectives said that he felt that one of the assailants had attempted to take his gun. So we in this country may not be as immune to these situations as we might like to think we are.
declanflynn wrote: » how many are shot dead in an average year
Danzy wrote: » As I showed you, per similar arrests numbers whites die more than blacks.
AbusesToilets wrote: » You attack a cop with a weapon, expect to get shot. Would you any less dead if I crack you across the head with a baton? Michael Brown attacked a cop and tried to take his gun, yet folks acted like he was gunned down in the street. The majority of shootings by cops in the US are justifiable, something folks like you are no doubt loath to admit.
Luxxis wrote: » I'll add to that by saying if you dont want run in's with the cops, dont break the law.
ronivek wrote: » And if he had taken pepper spray instead of a taser? Would he deserve to have been shot dead? What if the officer had a nut allergy and the guy was throwing peanuts at him as he was running. Would he also deserve to be shot dead? What about if he had taken the officer's baton and was running? I mean he could have thrown it at the officer and hit him in the eye or something... would he deserve to be shot dead in that case? Or in your mind is anyone who dares to resist arrest deserving of being lethally shot?
Luxxis wrote: » But he didn't. He took the TASER and they knew that.
NotMOL wrote: » You are missing the point which has been made a million times ITT, Ireland and America are completely different when it comes to guns. Cops are regularly shot at and killed in America. Also you and others defending him keeping leaving out the point were he was drunk behind the wheel, you make it seem like he was just having a nap outside the burger shop
froog wrote: » what if it was a baton he stole and waved about? is shooting him dead still justified?
froog wrote: » wrong as i showed earlier. unarmed black people are much more likely to be shot dead.
Danzy wrote: » Statistical evidence shows us he would be more likely to be shot dead.
AbusesToilets wrote: » He attacked the police and took their weapon and used it against them. The officers were absolutely justified in using lethal force against him, and I imagine will likely win a wrongful dismissal lawsuit when it all shakes out.
declanflynn wrote: » They shot a guy dead while he was running away from them
froog wrote: » question for the people defending the cop;imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately. are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?
Danzy wrote: » Like I said pity you weren't there but were safe in bed.
perfectkama wrote: » armed unit not general police very unlikely to respond America has many guns not like many other placessupermacs food is to good to burn it down
froog wrote: » do you think if the guy in the US was white he would still have been shot dead?
froog wrote: » sure you might as well shoot dead every single person who breaks the law by that logic. that guy jaywalking, i dunno, i mean he could be off to kill someone, he's already broken one law right? kill him and we don't have to do actual policing.
froog wrote: » question for the people defending the cop; imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately. are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?
Donald Trump wrote: » In the US, there is a far higher chance that the drunk fella will have a gun. Even if he doesn't with a taser he can potentially take the policeman's gun. I have never been near a row in Ireland where a drunk fella pulled a gun and started shooting it. But I was in the US. I didn't see it happen as I was 50m or so away but I heard the screaming and then shots and everyone started running. I read more about it on the news the next day. Nobody was killed but a couple of people were hit.
punisher5112 wrote: » declanflynn, don't take kindly to name calling, I had the respect to not call you names. Suppose shows you for who you really are.... Pity someone died but then cops wanted to go home alive that night and done their job well imo.
ronivek wrote: » From the guy who doesn't even answer the question he's quoting. I don't think anyone is arguing about the guy being a ****ty person; they're arguing that shooting a running man who is armed with a taser is an excessive use of force. You can start bringing other factors into it but that's the crux of it; the amount of force used against this man was disproportionate to the potential for harm if he was not shot at that precise moment.
declanflynn wrote: » it was a taser gun not an atomic bomb he had
