declanflynn wrote: » A drunk man with a taser running away is zero threat to 2 armed police officers, are u thick?
froog wrote: » he was running away with a non lethal weapon. the idea that he was plotting to incapacitate two cops, steal their guns and start killing people is ridiculous.
Luxxis wrote: » What about the people he might be running into?
froog wrote: » question for the people defending the cop; imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately. are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?
Danzy wrote: » Pity you weren't there to explain it to them all. Tucked up in bed, given the time difference probably, if only you could reassure them the violent drunk who fought them stole a weapon wasn't pulling a gun. You are very willing to sacrifice those working class guys from the safety of your leaba.
declanflynn wrote: » so he was out to kill everyone except the policemen he ran away from?
declanflynn wrote: » All he wanted to do was get a burger and go home to bed, people here think he was hell bent on going on a killing rampage
1800_Ladladlad wrote: » and you asked another user if they were tick?:cool:
AbusesToilets wrote: » Don't resist arrest, don't punch cops, don't take their weapons and shoot at them. Pretty simple recipe for how to avoid getting shot. The hoops folks are jumping through here to justify the actions of a pretty ****ty person are astounding.
1800_Ladladlad wrote: » Sure all he wanted to do was get a burger and go home to bed.
Luxxis wrote: » You dont know his intentions, his state of mind, how said state of mind was after an altercation with the police. No one know what he might have done.
declanflynn wrote: » it was a taser gun not an atomic bomb he had
ronivek wrote: » From the guy who doesn't even answer the question he's quoting. I don't think anyone is arguing about the guy being a ****ty person; they're arguing that shooting a running man who is armed with a taser is an excessive use of force. You can start bringing other factors into it but that's the crux of it; the amount of force used against this man was disproportionate to the potential for harm if he was not shot at that precise moment.
punisher5112 wrote: » declanflynn, don't take kindly to name calling, I had the respect to not call you names. Suppose shows you for who you really are.... Pity someone died but then cops wanted to go home alive that night and done their job well imo.
Donald Trump wrote: » In the US, there is a far higher chance that the drunk fella will have a gun. Even if he doesn't with a taser he can potentially take the policeman's gun. I have never been near a row in Ireland where a drunk fella pulled a gun and started shooting it. But I was in the US. I didn't see it happen as I was 50m or so away but I heard the screaming and then shots and everyone started running. I read more about it on the news the next day. Nobody was killed but a couple of people were hit.
froog wrote: » sure you might as well shoot dead every single person who breaks the law by that logic. that guy jaywalking, i dunno, i mean he could be off to kill someone, he's already broken one law right? kill him and we don't have to do actual policing.
AbusesToilets wrote: » He attacked the police and took their weapon and used it against them. The officers were absolutely justified in using lethal force against him, and I imagine will likely win a wrongful dismissal lawsuit when it all shakes out.
froog wrote: » do you think if the guy in the US was white he would still have been shot dead?
perfectkama wrote: » armed unit not general police very unlikely to respond America has many guns not like many other placessupermacs food is to good to burn it down
Danzy wrote: » Like I said pity you weren't there but were safe in bed.
froog wrote: » question for the people defending the cop;imagine this happened in ireland - jimmy the local drunk (a white irish guy) is drink driving around the place and falls asleep outside supermacs and someone calls the guards. for whatever reason, the armed unit shows up. they struggle, jimmy takes a taser off one of the cops and runs away with it, he waves the taser behind his back and one of the armed gardai shoots him dead immediately. are you seriously telling me you have zero problem with that?
declanflynn wrote: » They shot a guy dead while he was running away from them
NotMOL wrote: » You are missing the point which has been made a million times ITT, Ireland and America are completely different when it comes to guns. Cops are regularly shot at and killed in America. Also you and others defending him keeping leaving out the point were he was drunk behind the wheel, you make it seem like he was just having a nap outside the burger shop
