Will I Am Not wrote: » Everyone knows what can happen in a situation like that. It’s like the people that go to parts of the Middle East or Asia and get caught with enough weed for a couple of spliffs... Just don’t do it.
Overheal wrote: » It's easy to sweep problems under the rug that way isnt it.
Esse85 wrote: » It's easy not look at alcohol as a major contributing factor towards crime too. To avoid that common denominator is to avoid the truth. It's the law of cause and effect.
froog wrote: » the guy being; 1. a moron 2. a criminal still doesn't excuse him getting killed needlessly. not sure where people are going with those arguments.
Overheal wrote: » "America: only as oppressive as those bad parts of the Middle East or Asia."
Overheal wrote: » I agree they shouldn't have exchanged fire with him. They should have let him run a couple minutes and drunk himself into the ground.
Danzy wrote: » He left that as their only choice, you can guarantee the police wish he hadn't forced them to.
Danzy wrote: » This makes me think you are posting for the fun of it, you ok probably could careless. Let himself drink himself in to the ground, maybe they should have had a litre bottle of whiskey to give him to help.
froog wrote: » that's just not true. unarmed black people are much more likely to be killed by police during an interaction than white people.https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmedhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/https://www.statista.com/chart/21872/map-of-police-violence-against-black-americans/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4634878/
joe40 wrote: » It wasn't their only choice. An armed PSNI officer or UK police man or armed Garda would not have shot in those circumstances.
Overheal wrote: » Doesn't everyone post because they enjoy it? Or do you post because it makes you miserable and it feels like a chore? Point being that as drunk as he was they wouldn't have needed to chase him far and he was no lethal threat to anyone after the taser was fired and missed.
patsman07 wrote: » The reason why black people are over represented in the data you have cited here is because African American's are only 14% of the US population but they commit around 50% of the crime. Therefore, they have more interactions with the police.
Danzy wrote: » I'm wondering if you think it was completely justified to shoot him but are being contrarian.
Overheal wrote: » It was not at all justified. Lethal force was excessive to the scenario.
patsman07 wrote: » You're wrong. All of the data you cite here is concerned with the absolute number of police shootings. (The 1000 or so each year I mentioned in my post.) As I said, most of these are undoubtedly justified. The reason why black people are over represented in the data you have cited here is because African American's are only 14% of the US population but they commit around 50% of the crime. Therefore, they have more interactions with the police. Furthermore, for the police to be systemically racist, we would have to remove cases where a black cop shot a black victim. The evidence shows that black & hispanic cops are more likely to shoot black victims than white cops.
punisher5112 wrote: » How do you know. He took their weapon and he used it against them, he could have then got their actual firearm if he contacted the taser right.
declanflynn wrote: » He was drunk and running away, the cops were not in any immediate danger, call for back up and follow him
Overheal wrote: » Or maybe there's more than simple correlation and causation for a 400 year old problem.
froog wrote: » other choices: 1. run after him and tackle him to the ground (there was two cops) 2. let him off and call for backup
punisher5112 wrote: » And what if he uses the taser on another officer or breaks into a home...... Seriously he was under arrest they can't be letting people run off with their weapons.
punisher5112 wrote: » He had one of their tasers, they had already gone the tackling route and he fought and stole the weapon, he could use the taser against them..... Simple he was a major risk.
declanflynn wrote: » call for back up and follow him! Shooting shouldn't always be the answer
froog wrote: » he was running away with a non lethal weapon. the idea that he was plotting to incapacitate two cops, steal their guns and start killing people is ridiculous.
declanflynn wrote: » no he wasn't, someone running away from the police are not a danger to those he is running away from its simple
punisher5112 wrote: » He was under arrest, they can't just let him run off with their weapon... He tried to use it against them so he was a threat.
