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Pubs Closed - The Poor Drunks

FixdePitchmark

Don't get me wrong - I love a pint in the pub myself.

But you know these lads who were going to pubs every day - basically their life.

I was wondering how they coped with pubs closed - where did they go.

Must have been a bigger shock than covid - pubs haven't been closed in Ireland - in 100s of years.

Also - you missing the pub yourself ?

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FixdePitchmark

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Oh noo.. I won't be paying a fortune for overpriced drink in overcrowded noisy pubs. How WILL I survive? :rolleyes:

By staying at home.

_Kaiser_

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

By staying at home.

Not at all. I get out a fair bit (when I have time) and even have an occasional drink if I'm not driving and fancy it (usually with a bit to eat).. but on the flip side, it wouldn't bother me at all if pubs NEVER reopened either.

I enjoyed the mad nights out and sessions when I was in my 20s but I kinda grew out of it in my 30s when other things took priority.

Charlie19

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

where

Clondalkin village.

[Deleted User]

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Not at all. I get out a fair bit (when I have time) and even have an occasional drink if I'm not driving and fancy it (usually with a bit to eat).. but on the flip side, it wouldn't bother me at all if pubs NEVER reopened either.

I enjoyed the mad nights out and sessions when I was in my 20s but I kinda grew out of it in my 30s when other things took priority.

So now that you’re finished **** everyone else?

Maybe some 20 year olds want to have their nights out too.

_Kaiser_

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

So now that you’re finished **** everyone else.

As the point I made above has clearly missed you, let me try again.

No issue with people enjoying a social pint (pub or no pub), but reading this forum over the last few months and the NEED that some need to have for the pub is the concern.

[Deleted User]

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As the point I made above has clearly missed you, let me try again.

No issue with people enjoying a social pint (pub or no pub), but reading this forum over the last few months and the NEED that some need to have for the pub is the concern.

People haven’t got out for months.

FixdePitchmark

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

As the point I made above has clearly missed you, let me try again.

No issue with people enjoying a social pint (pub or no pub), but reading this forum over the last few months and the NEED that some need to have for the pub is the concern.

Why would you be concerned ?

Let them live their own life.

The pub can be an incredible place. Music , laughter, meeting people - even a wife.

It is part of our culture - would you go over to Paris and tell a French person - they have an issue drinking wine at lunch.

Some of them do it every day - yes every day.

At least with the Irish we do not drink on the job - or have liquid lunches like they do in England and Europe.

[Deleted User]

Enjoy an odd trip to a pub, I would like a night out with three or four pints next week for sure.
Was watching a programme called Pure Mule that RTÉ had on, it is set in the Celtic Tiger. So interesting, it kinda reflects that time when it was completely normal for loads of people to head to the pub and get drunk several nights a week. It was totally commonplace.

Think we have gone beyond that now thankfully, but it’s a pity pubs can’t keep going in many cases. Like it or not, pubs do play an important role for people in small rural areas. It’s the only social outlet for some people, a lot of men don’t like sport very much or joining clubs and that kind of thing.

Wanderer2010

You know, everyone is the way they are for an infinite number of reasons from conditioned beliefs growing up to the influence of their family and peers and environment. I do think its a waste to be spending so much of your life at the pub but who am I to judge. I dont know their mind, their heart or their soul. They may be getting companionship from being around the lads, they may not talk to many other people, maybe they have a very difficult home life, all we can do is speculate.

This whole crisis has definitely been very hard for people in terms of routine and predictability and for many of the people who spent a lot of time in the pub they may be finding it very hard. I hope some of them find some peace in this time, and if they want to go back to the pub, thats up to them entirely. Life is hard enough without judging others. Each to their own.

Aongus Von Bismarck

I live in Germany, and the bars have been open for a number of weeks now. I met some friends last night for a few beers, and I must admit that the atmosphere was strange. The Germans are rather like the Irish in their love for beer, conversation, and the local Kneipe. Like Ireland, the reopening of the pubs was the subject of much debate here.

The reality is strong social distancing, no counter service, 1/4 litre pours, and the enforcement of early closing rules. Most of the local breweries have moved to a home delivery service, and haven't reopened their pubs because it doesn't make financial sense.

FixdePitchmark

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I live in Germany, and the bars have been open for a number of weeks now. I met some friends last night for a few beers, and I must admit that the atmosphere was strange. The Germans are rather like the Irish in their love for beer, conversation, and the local Kneipe. Like Ireland, the reopening of the pubs was the subject of much debate here.

The reality is strong social distancing, no counter service, 1/4 litre pours, and the enforcement of early closing rules. Most of the local breweries have moved to a home delivery service, and haven't reopened their pubs because it doesn't make financial sense.

It sounds an awful set up.

The idea of a pub is freedom , interaction a lack of any real order or rules.

In a pub you talk to someone you shouldn't talk to.

I've talked to a good few every day drinkers - and you might be surprised , there is an incredible variety in them - form pure geniuses to bad luck stories. To genuine great people. To not so pleasant people.

The most common thing about them - is, they are men. Not sure why that is.

murpho999

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Beer from a keg is nicer.

That's debateable but besides that when you're paying €5-6 for a pint then you're paying for being in a pub and for ambience, atmosphere, decor etc.

I'm not paying that to sit in my home.

PTH2009

50/50 on the drinks side as you still buy it from the Offy/Supermarkets and cheaper too but missing the routine of going too the pub (great way to kill time) and live music/sport.

Even sitting down with a pint browsing here is nice. No way would i pay for the home delivery pints (Id consider buying if i could drink it near the place)

one side of me is not looking forward to the ques and pandemonium when they open (all the social media attention seeking posts) but one side of me cant wait. First few days/nights will be mental

Beechwoodspark

One of my customers owns a pub and cannot wait to re-open

Like you say, they are preparing for the first week or so to be bananas mental, Stephens day/night type busy

major bill

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

One of my customers owns a pub and cannot wait to re-open

Like you say, they are preparing for the first week or so to be bananas mental, Stephens day/night type busy

Will it though ? Will people bother if it’s gonna be an awkward situation with plenty of social distancing rules? Best seats in the house are gone can’t sit at the bar anymore can’t have music ! I love a pint but I’m not too sure people will be rushing back IMO

PTH2009

major bill wrote: »

Will it though ? Will people bother if it’s gonna be an awkward situation with plenty of social distancing rules? Best seats in the house are gone can’t sit at the bar anymore can’t have music ! I love a pint but I’m not too sure people will be rushing back IMO

people are ****ing ignorant and will go into the pub and threat it the same way it was before lockdown

Andrew00

Sure in the bookies today it was business as normal. Absolutely no difference to pre-covid just a bit of hand sanitiser

Potential-Monke

Deleted User wrote: »

Where do you draw the line?

The law draws the line. If it's already illegal, it should stay illegal, and if it's already legal then it can't be bad for you...

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Beer from a keg is should be nicer.

FYP

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

At least with the Irish we do not drink on the job - or have liquid lunches like they do in England and Europe.

Ah, but they do though. Maybe not as much, but they do. My sister was part of the regular Prosecco lunch brigade. Go into a grub pub during lunch (pre-covid) and you'll see suits drinking (you can tell the difference between work people and non-work people for the most part). My last job, the liquid lunch was nearly expected at times. It's just not discussed because it's (rightly) frowned upon.

I'm indifferent about them re-opening. I won't be going either way, because like someone mentioned above, it'll be back to the old normal in no time. Even gigs/concerts are going to be a no-go from me. Covid has definitely turned me slightly agoraphobic, and pubs are a no-go while I'm feeling like this. Even going shopping for food the last few days has been iffy to me. People are already behaving that this is over and everything should go back to the old normal.

I can see an increase in camping/glamping holidays/events. Social distancing can be easily followed in a field of a few people.

the beer revolu

I started a thread on the future of pubs here a few weeks ago.
It was deemed unsuitable for AH , moved to Current Affairs and then closed.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113484216

:mad::mad::mad:

ThewhiteJesus

FanadMan wrote: »

I was a 7 night a week man. 2 - 4 pints, good music on my phone and darts and I was happy. Since the lockdown its been a couple of cans, good music on speakers rather than headphones and darts at home playing against people all over the world. And I'm way happier.....no walk home (which I do actually miss when the weather is nice) and a lot more money in my pocket. Really couldn't give a shyte if the pubs ever opened again.

That’s a lot of drink per week

FixdePitchmark

Potential-Monke wrote: »

The law draws the line. If it's already illegal, it should stay illegal, and if it's already legal then it can't be bad for you...

FYP

Ah, but they do though. Maybe not as much, but they do. My sister was part of the regular Prosecco lunch brigade. Go into a grub pub during lunch (pre-covid) and you'll see suits drinking (you can tell the difference between work people and non-work people for the most part). My last job, the liquid lunch was nearly expected at times. It's just not discussed because it's (rightly) frowned upon.

OK - maybe it is here more than I expected. What line of work is your sister in.

I do no it is a big thing in UK. I've never come across it in Ireland at all.

Irish tend to be going to the pub or not - yes after work on a Friday , 430 till 430 next morning.

CrankyHaus

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

That’s a lot of drink per week

If it's spread out over each day it's possibly less harmful than the one night a week session I go for.

[Deleted User]

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

That’s a lot of drink per week

Not really, even on the higher end of his range every night it’s only 28 pints a week. On the lower end it’s 14 which is one good night out for a lot of people.

[Deleted User]

Like most things in life its down to the individual. For some they may have never seen any other life the line from the song, they bring you up to do what your daddy done. They may have come from a family with a culture of drinking the pub on Sunday afternoon etc, they grew up to do the same and don't know a different life, some will never go back some will.

the beer revolu

It's interesting how eating a meal while drinking your pints prevents infection.

TallGlass2

The bars may open again however it might be a bit of a job trying to find one that isn't at full capacity, considering one bar owner on Newstalk said they will only be able to open at 50/60% capacity. Be like the good old days when you where 18 eger to get drinking that first legal pint only to be told 'not tonight folks'.

CrankyHaus

Honestly I don't miss pub pints at all. However I do miss pub chicken wings. I place near me does brilliant ones and they're great with a few pints.

Hector Savage

Bassfish wrote: »

Fella in my village is a sad case. His daily ritual was go to work in a warehouse, bus home, straight in to the pub, after four or five pints the barman subtly ignores his calling for more drink, he gets the message and leaves and goes home to where his family don't allow him to drink. That seemed to sustain him. He's a pity but largely harmless. Since Covid his job is gone and his social outlet is gone so by 11am most mornings, rain or shine, he's down in the village square, sitting on a bench drinking cans from a back pack. I've seen him get through 12 cans of an afternoon and fall asleep on the bench. I've also heard he's started shouting at people who say anything to him. At least pubs offer some level of regulation and boundaries around drinking. I can't see him going back to pub drinking when they re-open.

Some would say that's living the dream!!

Hector Savage

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Imagine needing a few pints most nights to enjoy yourself... you gotta have pity on these people.

Boring sh!tes with nothing better to do with their free time than drink, and probably zero personality without the gargle in their system. Relics of the past!

Deleted User wrote: »

Alcoholism is horrible.

I don't pity the people. I try to understand that if I was addicted to something which was legal and actively promoted, how I would react.

Loads of people can have a couple and leave it at that, but not a negligible amount can not. And it consumes their life. They can be a great parent, a great partner and a great friend, but secretly, all they want is a drink.

I'd never ask for alcohol to be banned, as the inability of a few to control their intake should not dictate what is available to the masses, but I do think that your oversimplification and low key distain for addicts of a legal substance is a little cruel.

Alcoholism a few pints every night ?

Would yo go away ourra da!!!

JohnnyFlash

I heard carveries won’t be allowed. Food has to come from the kitchen. Is that the case?

Few things better than a good turkey and ham carvery, a dozen pints, and a couple of visits to the bookies next door to back on a few horses.