Overheal wrote: » I'm referring to the cop but of course you knew that.
Rezident wrote: » If you fight with armed police you are risking death, that's why I am always extra polite to them. No need to justify it, it cannot be justified, but fighting with the police - any police - is just stupid. Fight with Russian police = beating/death Fight with Chinese police = beating/death Why would you fight against armed police? Are you that stupid!? Maybe you need an @ss whooping?
Danzy wrote: » His choice was to escalate, it wasn't justified but he kept escalating till his death.
patsman07 wrote: » If a cop, in any country, decides that he/she is going to arrest you, the best thing to do is allow that to happen. Even if you know your innocent/if you think the cop is being racist, the best place to argue those points is in the station in the presence of your solicitor. Arguing with a policeman/garda, who has already decided that you need to be arrested, is counter productive. Beginning a tussle with a policeman, particularly an armed policeman, is dicing with death. The policeman cannot allow himself to become overpowered in case his gun is taken from him and used against him. In the United States, where there are 300 million guns in circulation, a policeman has to assume that many of the people that he/she comes into contact with is armed. Policemen are human, they will make fatal mistakes. The data shows that these mistakes in the US are not disproportionately affecting the black community.
declanflynn wrote: » A lot of rednecks around
punisher5112 wrote: » 3 shots doesn't mean all or any hit their target.... Obviously in this circumstance he was hit but I didn't see how many. He was escaping a lawful arrest and attacked the officers, what people don't realise is the cops don't know if he has a knife or gun on him and the big risk was he had one of their weapons which he attempted to use numerous times, he then could easily have grabbed the actual lethal firearm off one. If he complied he wouldn't be dead. He chose how to play the game and lost. Don't get me wrong I'm not getting enjoyment out of people being killed but sometimes there is no choice.
NotMOL wrote: » I get what you're saying but I would say someones past records do come into play, he was clearly a violent person if he served 7 years for beating his kids and hasn't changed much if as soon as he get's released from jail he then goes on to assault a police officer, steal his weapon and then try to shoot him.
Overheal wrote: » It explains why he resisted arrest but doesnt justify escalation of force in itself.
Stablelad123 wrote: » It is relevant since he was currently on probation. Probably why he resisted arrest.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » While a tragic incident I feel on balance the officer used the only option left open to him.
1800_Ladladlad wrote: » Now you are taking p*ss:eek:
weldoninhio wrote: » It’s not irrelevant if it effected his behaviour. He knew he’d go back inside if booked for DUI while on parole. He took the option to run. You think he would have been sitting at home waiting for the cops the next day??
AbusesToilets wrote: » Written as someone who has never fired a gun, let alone in a stressful situation at someone trying to do you harm. Absolute fantasist.
Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: » Wrong! They are trained to shoot centre mass (which is the torso), but the desired outcome is not death. They are trying to incapacitate the person and neutralise the threat. Some officers have been known to deliberately target a person's leg or shoulder rather than more lethal areas... it's not just in movies or TV shows. 3 shots for a guy running away in possession of a non-lethal weapon, is excessive force by a nervous and trigger happy cop. In most other countries, this man would still be alive today... but in the good old USofA... a drunk man who made a mistake is dead. And a child grows up without their dad. Crazy country!
froog wrote: » his criminal record and how good a person he was or wasn't is completely irrelevant. but you know that.
john123470 wrote: » https://youtu.be/tlJOgwG2EPc In clip above, a black man tells it as it is. On memorial weekend for Floyd .. - in Chicago, 60 (black) people shot by black people. 9-12 died. One black man in the clip says "they shoulda let Floyd live so we could kill him ! " He asks why we are not talking about the real problem 'black on black' crime Good to have some balance in all this madness. To all the keyboard warriors here who say ' the cop in Atlanta coulda / shoulda done this / that - I guess you would have managed that situation perfectly, right ? This man was parked in a drive thru .. he drove there pissed out of his gourd .. when served his grub, one will assume he drives away. What if he ran over you .. would that be ok ? Why are all the people protesting about police brutality not talking about black on black crime which has an exponentially higher death toll .. where are the protestors when a black man shoots a white man or a white police officer ?? Is that ok ? This is not just about police brutality .. This is a whole other thing
