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PlayStation 5 - Now with FAQ in OP.

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Mark Cerny has been showing off the dev kit:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console

PS5 FAQ:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5-the-ultimate-faq/#sf239758641

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xtal191

challengemaster wrote: »

Unsure why people think the digital version will be the cheaper & stripped down version of the two. I'd actually expect the opposite.

I'd say the digital version will get the larger 1.65Tb SSD , the disc version gets the 865Gb SSD - That's what gives Sony the best monetary outcome here, people who want more games and the bigger hard drive get pushed towards digital only purchases and diminishes the resale market. It also just makes sense - give the larger hard drive to the people who will download all their games.

I def agree and think the digital version will have the larger SSD too but I've a feeling they'll both be the exact same price in the hope that people will be swayed by the larger SSD and buy the Digital one.

JeffKenna

Varik wrote: »

Not used prime lately but Amazon have gotten abysmally slow for normal delivery to Ireland, takes them a week to even ship it the order let alone the time it take to get here.

If you were going Amazon you'd probably be better ordering using prime to Parcel motel or Address pal. If I'd to guess I'd say Parcel motel as they're in the North so it'll be in the north launch day and maybe at a locker that evening.

Just a word of warning, I got my PS4 through parcel motel but the packaging was so big it ended up being oversized!

Revoker88

shaveAbullock wrote: »

Do UHD Blu Rays sell well?
It's mostly streaming services now and I know you need at least 25Mbit internet to stream UHD but people with slower internet seem happy enoung with 1080p.

I wouldn't be buying a ton of them but for certain movies I'd be happy to pay for a really top quality copy.

challengemaster wrote: »

I don't think I could name a single person that I know who's bought a Blu Ray since they came out, I really can't see it being as big a deciding factor as you're making out on here. Especially with 4k streaming on multiple platforms now. DVD sales dropped nearly 90% in the last 15 years. Blu Ray only makes up about $1bn of the $25bn market share of media consumption, and 4k bluray is only 5% of all physical media sales. There's nowhere near sizable enough to even be a consideration.

Don't think anyone is saying its a deciding factor for anyone other than themselves. For people who would like the blu Ray option and have PS4 disc based library it is an important factor.

So yeah ymmv in how much these features will mean to you personally.

challengemaster

I don't think I could name a single person that I know who's bought a Blu Ray since they came out, I really can't see it being as big a deciding factor as you're making out on here. Especially with 4k streaming on multiple platforms now. DVD sales dropped nearly 90% in the last 15 years. Blu Ray only makes up about $1bn of the $25bn market share of media consumption, and 4k bluray is only 5% of all physical media sales. There's nowhere near sizable enough to even be a consideration.

shaveAbullock

Exactly, some people have not purchased discs for years now, they can log in and play their whole ps4 catalogue on the ps5.

Wing126

Dayjur wrote: »

How will you play your backwards compatible discs without a drive? the digital version is pointless

It's really not pointless at all, it gives people choice. The type of people who are going to by the Digital version are the type of people who don't buy discs in the first place.

Dayjur

How will you play your backwards compatible discs without a drive? the digital version is pointless

Wing126

challengemaster wrote: »

You must be having a laugh, latest leak showing $699 price point

There's an Amazon.fr "leak" showing €499.99 too.

shaveAbullock

Do UHD Blu Rays sell well?
It's mostly streaming services now and I know you need at least 25Mbit internet to stream UHD but people with slower internet seem happy enoung with 1080p.

martyos121

challengemaster wrote: »

Unsure why people think the digital version will be the cheaper & stripped down version of the two. I'd actually expect the opposite.

I'd say the digital version will get the larger 1.65Tb SSD , the disc version gets the 865Gb SSD - That's what gives Sony the best monetary outcome here, people who want more games and the bigger hard drive get pushed towards digital only purchases and diminishes the resale market. It also just makes sense - give the larger hard drive to the people who will download all their games.

Well even as someone who doesn’t buy discs anymore, I think it’d be crazy for them to charge the same amount if not more for a console that locks away the entire pre-owned market from you, as well as 4K Blu Ray movies. They need to incentivise the digital model and a bigger hard-drive alone won’t do that IMO. The price must be enticing for it to succeed.

As for feature stripping, yeah it’s unlikely now that I think more about it, but unless the digital model comes with an extra controller or accessory of some kind as a sweetener, it’s still the lesser SKU of the two. It either needs to be cheaper or offer equal value in some way to split the sales evenly across both units, unless production itself isn’t split evenly between the two.

Revoker88

ziggyman17 wrote: »

a lot of people will buy the disc version so they can also play their 4k movies as well as play games, I can see the disc version being the biggest seller........

I'd agree,was one of the things I was disappointed the PS4 didn't have.

shaveAbullock

The M.2 NVME SSD expansion will have to be at least the same speed as the Sony inbuilt one to work with games.
Currently a 1 TB drive that's fast enough will set you back €150

ziggyman17

challengemaster wrote: »

Unsure why people think the digital version will be the cheaper & stripped down version of the two. I'd actually expect the opposite.

I'd say the digital version will get the larger 1.65Tb SSD , the disc version gets the 865Gb SSD - That's what gives Sony the best monetary outcome here, people who want more games and the bigger hard drive get pushed towards digital only purchases and diminishes the resale market. It also just makes sense - give the larger hard drive to the people who will download all their games.

a lot of people will buy the disc version so they can also play their 4k movies as well as play games, I can see the disc version being the biggest seller........

Revoker88

challengemaster wrote: »

Unsure why people think the digital version will be the cheaper & stripped down version of the two. I'd actually expect the opposite.

I'd say the digital version will get the larger 1.65Tb SSD , the disc version gets the 865Gb SSD - That's what gives Sony the best monetary outcome here, people who want more games and the bigger hard drive get pushed towards digital only purchases and diminishes the resale market. It also just makes sense - give the larger hard drive to the people who will download all their games.

The games will install on the drive and won't run from disc though so you use the same space with digital or physical copies so I don't see one having a bigger drive.

Unless that's changed from PS4 but I haven't seen anything to say otherwise. I'd think it especially true givin that the SSD is being touted as a big part of how the console will work.

shaveAbullock

JimBurnley wrote: »

Do we know if you'll be able to plug in an external hard drive for more storage like the ps4?

Sony have said there will be a port to install an m.2 SSD
There should be a list of compatible drives on release.

JimBurnley

Do we know if you'll be able to plug in an external hard drive for more storage like the ps4?

shaveAbullock

But even if you want to buy disc's it still requires the same install size on the hard drive.

I can't find any Sony confirmed source on a 1.65Tb SSD

challengemaster

martyos121 wrote: »

Haven’t bought a PS4 disc in about three years I’d say so I’ll be very tempted by a digital only model if the price difference is big enough. You’d hope the only thing missing from that one is the disc drive, and that they don’t strip other features too to lower the cost.

Unsure why people think the digital version will be the cheaper & stripped down version of the two. I'd actually expect the opposite.

I'd say the digital version will get the larger 1.65Tb SSD , the disc version gets the 865Gb SSD - That's what gives Sony the best monetary outcome here, people who want more games and the bigger hard drive get pushed towards digital only purchases and diminishes the resale market. It also just makes sense - give the larger hard drive to the people who will download all their games.

shaveAbullock

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Will they tell us the PS5 is gonna be so good we'll want to work extra hours to be able to afford it?

Nah, Sony will probably tell you not to bother.

SureYWouldntYa

Will they tell us the PS5 is gonna be so good we'll want to work extra hours to be able to afford it?

shaveAbullock

martyos121 wrote: »

Haven’t bought a PS4 disc in about three years I’d say so I’ll be very tempted by a digital only model if the price difference is big enough. You’d hope the only thing missing from that one is the disc drive, and that they don’t strip other features too to lower the cost.

What else could the strip? It will have the same CPU/GPC, Ram and SSD.

martyos121

Haven’t bought a PS4 disc in about three years I’d say so I’ll be very tempted by a digital only model if the price difference is big enough. You’d hope the only thing missing from that one is the disc drive, and that they don’t strip other features too to lower the cost.

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think the no-disc model will be sold at a loss to hit an attractive price. Maybe $399 ? Then the with-disc model will be sold at $499... maybe that's a break even price. I really cannot see a $600 system based on their history with PS3.

Personally I have no interest in all-digital. Half my PS4 library are physical.

I think it's very unlikely that we'll see €399. The cheapest option will be most likely €499 and another €50 for the disk drive version.

challengemaster

Deleted User wrote: »

I think the no-disc model will be sold at a loss to hit an attractive price. Maybe $399 ? Then the with-disc model will be sold at $499... maybe that's a break even price. I really cannot see a $600 system based on their history with PS3.

You must be having a laugh, latest leak showing $699 price point

73178_04_playstation-launch-price-699-launches-december-2020.jpg

[Deleted User]

I think the no-disc model will be sold at a loss to hit an attractive price. Maybe $399 ? Then the with-disc model will be sold at $499... maybe that's a break even price. I really cannot see a $600 system based on their history with PS3.

Personally I have no interest in all-digital. Half my PS4 library are physical.

shaveAbullock

Wing126 wrote: »

Where did ye get this info?

Bloomberg wrote an article on it their source was "people with knowledge of the matter" :pac:

Difficult sourcing some components may be driving prices higher but only Sony knows the cost per unit.

Wing126

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

Isn't the manufacturing costs 450dollars though as opposed to the ps3 which was 830dollars?

Where did ye get this info?

I reckon it'll be €5-600. €600 max.

On the same note, does Smyths let you pay off gradually up to release, or do they require the full payment up front?

Varik

A blue ray disc isn't much in terms of cost but if Sony are making an extra 20% per game and each digital game sold means potentially an additional new sale as that'd be one less used copy in the wild.

I'd say the difference will be 100, but I don't think Sony will try for another 600 console.

WarZoneBrother

EoinHef wrote: »

Givin the hardware I didn't think it was ever going to be cheap.

I still think it could be somewhere between €600-700. Then between €50-100 less for the model with no disc drive

Isn't the manufacturing costs 450dollars though as opposed to the ps3 which was 830dollars?

It would be a big mistake to price it at 600-700euro I reckon.. They be better off selling it at 500 and taking a big chunk of the market, majority of the money will be made from games and accessories anyways...

Revoker88

Givin the hardware I didn't think it was ever going to be cheap.

I still think it could be somewhere between €600-700. Then between €50-100 less for the model with no disc drive