frag420 wrote: » As I have posted twice on this thread, it all depends on the circumstances and what state he resides in...have a read of the link I posted twice already. In some states if the car is stationary and turned off then he is not drink driving, we will have to wait and see. However you cannot deny that he was being compliant up until the officer decided to cuff him, that escalated the issue. In light of recent happenings do you not think it would have been sensible to not escalate the issue, maintain a level head? Because that's what well trained cops are trained to do the world over! And if as has been suggested he was suspected of being drunk, why not take control of the car from him straight away to be extra cautions, esp as he was passed out and unresponsive for some time?
Lyan wrote: » Whatever the circumstances of this particular shooting, is it not fair to say that the quick-to-shoot tactics of the American police evolved as a response to legitimate dangers that are rarely found here in Europe? I mean go back a few years and Black areas had large gangs armed to the teeth with Ak-47s and Uzis.
declanflynn wrote: » Was he driving or was he asleep
frag420 wrote: » What the difference between being asleep and being passed out How could one tell from inside a Wendys or outside a car?
declanflynn wrote: » protect others from what? he was asleep ffs
NotMOL wrote: » He was placed in the handcuffs because he was under arrest for DUI, this was after the police performed the breathalyzer test. Come on dude do you seriously think they should let someone just walk home after they were caught driving drink? he was being a scumbag and could've killing someone while he was driving drunk
peddlelies wrote: » He was obviously driving drunk, he was blocking up a drive way after passing out. Logic isn't your strong point I see.
declanflynn wrote: » Was he driving while he was asleep?
punisher5112 wrote: » Indeed they did, I don't see it anywhere where they wanted this outcome or were dancing around with joy, they were put in danger and had to protect themselves and others....
frag420 wrote: » No idea, Ive never been caught drunk driving :pIf he was not slurring his speech and the cops did not think he was locked out of his mind...then why put cuffs on him in the manner that they did, it was uncalled for and only escalated the issue? After the car was parked he offered to walk home and was perfectly capable of doing so as he was not locked out of his head? That would have been the sensible solution! Look I am not saying that all cops are bad, I know a number of them in NYC, I attended a Rolling Stones gig in London a few years ago with one of NYC's top cops so I have a little insight into the machinations of how some of them think. Have a read of this which I hope will Gove you and other insight into what is so wrong with the American police system. It would be great and appreciated if you could point out some of the issues outlined in this essay that you would agree with?https://kottke.org/20/06/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop
declanflynn wrote: » THEY SHOT HIM DEAD
PVNevin wrote: » Racism is not the the most salient characteristic of police murders. It is a factor; but not the most significant. The factor that underlies the vast majority of police murders is the class of the victim.
1800_Ladladlad wrote: » Do they tuck him as well?? Only in the US do you get shot for driving under the influence to join the line of a feckin Wendys drive tru, then resist arrest , grabbing an officer taser, making a run for it with said taser and then discharging the weapon at the officer. Christ, I wish people would just come out and say they want special privileges for black people .
Galwayguy35 wrote: » What was the point of burning the restaurant to the ground, thats not going to solve anything.
punisher5112 wrote: » How?
NotMOL wrote: » Is that not common police practice to tell someone to pull into the side away from danger? Also at that stage they didn't know if he was drunk or not because they had not yet performed the breathalyzer test and in the video he was not sluing his speech so I don't think the cops thought he was locked out of his mind
MadYaker wrote: » I don't know if it has anything to do with racism, but there was 2 of them and 1 of him and he had a tazer. They really couldn't apprehend him in any way without killing him? It sounds like excessive force.
declanflynn wrote: » so you dont know all the facts about the incident
frag420 wrote: » enlighten me... yet after all that they deemed him sober enough to move his car out of a queue and park it before they did the sobriety test. Lets say when he was moving the car he decided, **** it I will make a run for it and sped of knocking over someone. Who's fault would it have been? Surely if he is posing a danger you dont let him drive at all? Agreed He was dropped of at the drive thru by his sister after enjoying the day at his nieces birthday. Why on earth would the police allow someone they suspected of being drink continue to drive even if it was to just park his car. What id like I said above he decided to do a runner?
