frag420 wrote: » I could get behind that if the cop was alone as his pattern was inside getting coffee and donuts or whatever but according to one poster here there were tow sets of cops, so a min of three cops there. they had ample opportunity to not kill him.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Your justifying lethal force against somebody with a non lethal weapon who is actively trying to flee.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Cops need to learn how to handle people better, both verbally and physically, and how not to let a drunk guy take your taser off you.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Your justifying lethal force against somebody with a non lethal weapon who is actively trying to flee. That means everyone suspected of a crime is open to shooting if resisting arrest because a punch can do the same. There is a reason the cops classify these as non lethal, so they can use them in lots of situations. Cops need to learn how to handle people better, both verbally and physically, and how not to let a drunk guy take your taser off you.
frag420 wrote: » It didn't happen in Ireland. Well the only way he could have done a runner by driving away is by the cops letting him drive the car which they did. If he was a clear threat, why not call for back up, why let him drive his car? Look we can see from this and other the other thread (that you started) that you have a hard on for the US police and it seems to get particularly hard when they kill a black person...
punisher5112 wrote: » Have a look at YouTube and look at shootouts where police have been killed or shot multiple times and left for dead..... One from I believe 2017 was a traffic stop, they were speaking with a male, he had enough after similar circumstances where they were placing him in cuffs, he fought and there were two officers, he was tased, he continued fighting the cops even dragged him out of a live motorway lane to safe his life, he managed to over power them, got up ran to his car and shot both of them numerous times, how they weren't killed was an absolute miracle. He was black and both officers were white, he was around 22 I believe and the car was full of drugs. But you seem to think the cops are always wrong.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » It's not a "non lethal weapon" it's a less than lethal weapon. You sound like he had a nerf gun
joe40 wrote: » If that exact same situation had happened in Derry, the PSNI would not have shot someone dead even though they are armed. Because they are a responsible well trained police force. The lack of basic humanity from some posters is quite worrying. A young man is dead and he doesn't need to be. It is not anti police to look for better training, and better policies about guns, to try to prevent this sort of thing. This auld sh*the about the young man getting what he deserved is repulsive.
lawrencesummers wrote: » [HTML][/HTML] No, it’s classed as a non lethal weapon.
declanflynn wrote: » I dont think this man had guns and drugs in his car!
The TASER device is a less-lethal, not non-lethal, weapon. Sharp metal projectiles and electricity are in use, so misuse or abuse of the weapon increases the likelihood that serious injury or death may occur. In addition, the manufacturer has identified other risk factors that may increase the risks of use.
RasTa wrote: » I remember this policeman in also said he was reaching for his taser.https://www.nbcnews.com/video/a-closer-look-at-the-walter-scott-shooting-424905283706
punisher5112 wrote: » How do you know? I'm just saying look at more videos and you will understand then how dangerous it is to be a cop. Cops don't shoot or tase every person they come across, many have never fired a weapon at all in their service. The male fought, took a officers weapon and used it against them. The ah should have shot him in the leg trick is something that I'd laughable as people could still easily bleed out and it's much harder to fire from a hand gun and be that accurate.
Rows Grower wrote: » Protesters have burned down the Wendy's restaurant where the incident happened and it looks like this is going to escalate into more nationwide protests under the flag of BLM. Sorry the man has died but the colour of his skin had nothing to do with it.
declanflynn wrote: » They cops should have parked up his car and drove him home. Only in the US do you get killed for sleeping in your car.
froog wrote: » you don't think if the dude was white the cop wouldn't have shot him so instinctively?
punisher5112 wrote: » Oh sorry didn't comprehend it correctly so these were Uber or taxi drivers, agh I was so wrong.
sdanseo wrote: » No, I don't think so. I've seen a lot of videos where cops are clearly prejudiced, but this isn't that. And plenty of white people end up on the wrong side of incidents like this as well. It's sad and a total waste, but the guy made his own choices and his skin colour seems to have had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
punisher5112 wrote: » How do you know? I'm just saying look at more videos and you will understand then how dangerous it is to be a cop.
declanflynn wrote: » Was the Wendys still open?
froog wrote: » fair enough. in my opinion if the dude was white he would still be alive. the cop instinctively shot to kill when a non-lethal taser was pointed at him. if the guy was white his instinct would have been to tackle/incapacitate him. this is systemic racism. the cop most likely doesn't even realised he's been programmed this way.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » He could have taken a taxi home instead of driving while intoxicated.
RasTa wrote: » "That's a weapon" "it's a bucket" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9SZlypyK-4
False Prophet wrote: » For me deadly force should be last resort only to be used when you or others are at risk. He had 1 taser, they could have stayed outside the range of the taser or backed away and radioed for backup. What was the worse he could do, he couldnt taser both officers so wasnt going to get a gun. They had his name and car.What do guards do if someone steals a taser?