Leo says the Civil Service is 'very white'

mikeym wrote: »

More diversity in the work place.

May I suggest we elect Barrack Obama for President.

Is he black enough?

Vestiapx

punisher5112 wrote: »

What that we aren't crippled?

We are going into a depression

I have to queue to get into any retail outlet, my gm is trying to renegotiate my bonus because our sales are so high.
Markets are sentiment driven and we will hop back on this.

mikeym

More diversity in the work place.

May I suggest we elect Barrack Obama for President.

cloudatlas wrote: »

Only Here for handouts

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What is the current percentage of African immigrants on welfare in Ireland?
Should be easy for you to post here as it was in the news a few months back, i wont hold my breath waiting.

da_miser wrote: »

And many many of these immigrants are coming here with a massive chip on their shoulder to say the least, dont speak english , little to no education, with zero interest in assimilating, a recipe for success dare i say.

I worked in factory when I was kid and met my first immigrant.

From Zimbabwe. A very short , very quiet, very innocent lad struggling to understand our accents and culture...

... which is what management and most of the other workers thought.

He was some character. Could understand every word from every gob****e who thought he couldn't understand the insults and he could somehow manipulate them into doing extra work for him (he was a good worker himself - no problem there). He could play the race card without actually saying anything. Our supervisor used to be on the verge of heart attack if he had to interact with him for anything - one time myself and the team leader found the supervisor at his desk nearly in tears trying to figure out if he had said something racist.

And this was back in the olden days before political correctness when you could greet a female colleague with an affectionate "how's your tits?" and it would be taken in the good natured way it was intended and not start WW3.

Manach

To place this in historical content, to show how abysmal this comment of our "leader" is, I'll present the following. This is based on a lecture I attended by a retired Civil servant who was doing his doctorate in the history of that body. He mentioned that post-Independence the state did not trust the civil service as the leaders believed that the service was staffed mostly by people who were still loyal at heart to Britain. However they recognised the need for a competent and apolitical civil service, so largely left it untouched to attempt to provide the Irish people stability in the wake of the crisis of a newly born nation.
Forward this to present day and the cheap political point scoring by a "leader" attempting to appear progressive at any cost.
Compare and contrast.

cloudatlas

da_miser wrote: »

And many many of these immigrants are coming here with a massive chip on their shoulder to say the least, dont speak english , little to no education, with zero interest in assimilating, a recipe for success dare i say.

Always fact check. People like you never ever provide any statistics to back up anything you say.

Case study in Limerick.

Not educated?

Migrants come to Ireland for many reasons including employment prospects and a better way of life, just like the Irish who emigrated to
Australia, Canada and the UK. Almost 80% of migrants in Limerick are of
working age (15 – 65 years) and are highly
educated – 60% of non-Irish nationals have completed third-level education.

Don't Speak English

Language is often a significant obstacle for migrants in Ireland. However, there is huge demand for English language classes among the migrant community nationwide and in Limerick. 80% of migrants speak english.

“Migrants are not willing to integrate”

Despite the abundance of English language providers in the city, the supply simply cannot meet the demand. Migrants in Limerick were asked about their English language abilities in the 2011 Census, with 80% claiming to speak
English well or very well and only 4% had no English at all.

Only Here for handouts

Migrant workers are only entitled to claim Jobseekers Benefit if they have paid sufficient PRSI contributions through employment in Ireland. They are only entitled to claim Jobseekers Allowance if they can prove that they have lived
in Ireland for some time and that they intend to stay in Ireland for the foreseeable future. 85% of people on the Live Register in Limerick are Irish nationals. Less than 4% were from outside the EU and 11% were from within the EU. Non-Irish nationals also have a work force participation rate of 73%, much higher than the 57% rate of Irish nationals.

https://pjp-eu.coe.int/c4i/images/appendix%20a%20booklet%20(1).pdf

ArchXStanton

punisher5112 wrote: »

Seems the same in my job, pass it on as it's much easier then making a decision...

It's a lovely arrangement that they've got going here, so they can fcuk everybody year after year

gretta123

What I don’t get the removing statues thing
We have many monuments to famous Men who helped us get independence
I respect these men but they are killers some were worse then others
Take dan Breen - a man whose only regret was he did not kill more
Is he to re written out of our history?
How about Liam lynch and Michael Collins and de Valera.
Many ira men went to Germany looking for help to defeat the British
Should we write roger casement out of our history

I think anyone who thinks we need to rip down statues our ancestors put up for their good reasons and who also believe the Irish civil service is too white then they must have mental issues Of some type. I suspect a self hatred that includes self harm maybe drug or alcohol issues

ArchXStanton wrote: »

The social contract between a government ands its people seems to have died here a long time ago, they blame the EU, the EU blames them... Seems we have an awful lot of highly paid politicians floating around... One big happy daisy chain

Seems the same in my job, pass it on as it's much easier then making a decision...

All through history those in power ruled because the people where somewhat content with their lot in life , once the people saw those ruling where taking advantage and taking the pîss we get the likes of the French and Russian revolution, i reckon we will see something similar in a EU country within the next 5 years.
Multiculturalism is a failure yet the powers that be still push on with it, you reap what you sow, sit back and enjoy the coming show.

cloudatlas

da_miser wrote: »

And many many of these immigrants are coming here with a massive chip on their shoulder to say the least, dont speak english , little to no education, with zero interest in assimilating, a recipe for success dare i say.

Rinse and Repeat

ArchXStanton

Hunky Monster wrote: »

A fair chunk. The ones our government bends over backwards to accommodate.

Thousands of Latvian, Lithuanian and Polish people came here over the last 20 years and flourished.

Not all are like them. Plenty see us as a free ride, come to Ireland, get on the housing list, get everything paid for by the state.

Countries like Australia/NZ/Canada have it sussed, don’t meet our skilled criteria list you don’t come in.

Here we’ll leave in the fella with zero education and invite his extended family to come over with him and the thick Paddy will pay for em.

The social contract between a government ands its people seems to have died here a long time ago, they blame the EU, the EU blames them... Seems we have an awful lot of highly paid unaccountable politicians floating around... One big happy daisy chain

Spon Farmer wrote: »

Something wrong with a person who isn't depressed about it.:p

Why do former Taoiseachs need a Garda? Has anyone ever tried to harm one of them?

Not that I'm aware of but a guy danced on ones grave....

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

da_miser wrote: »

And many many of these immigrants are coming here with a massive chip on their shoulder to say the least, dont speak english , little to no education, with zero interest in assimilating, a recipe for success dare i say.

A fair chunk. The ones our government bends over backwards to accommodate.

Thousands of Latvian, Lithuanian and Polish people came here over the last 20 years and flourished.

Not all are like them. Plenty see us as a free ride, come to Ireland, get on the housing list, get everything paid for by the state.

Countries like Australia/NZ/Canada have it sussed, don’t meet our skilled criteria list you don’t come in.

Here we’ll leave in the fella with zero education and invite his extended family to come over with him and the thick Paddy will pay for em.

punisher5112 wrote: »

What that we aren't crippled?

We are going into a depression

Something wrong with a person who isn't depressed about it.:p

Why do former Taoiseachs need a Garda? Has anyone ever tried to harm one of them?

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I can’t find the post by the person who “debunked” the Ireland 2040 plan.

All I can say to you is go and read it. I’d quote it but I’m at work. It’s literally there in black and white. Take a good hard look and as yourself can we support 1,000,000 extra people in a country that’s going from recession to bust every 8 years, a crippling health service, brexit and now this Covid 19 rubbish... add that on top of a govt that clearly sees the Irish people as an inconvenience and prioritises the immigrant already. Where the fück will we be in 20 years time?!?

It’s literally population replacement. It actually says it in the document so don’t come on here and fücking lie to everyone.

And many many of these immigrants are coming here with a massive chip on their shoulder to say the least, dont speak english , little to no education, with zero interest in assimilating, a recipe for success dare i say.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I can’t find the post by the person who “debunked” the Ireland 2040 plan.

All I can say to you is go and read it. I’d quote it but I’m at work. It’s literally there in black and white. Take a good hard look and as yourself can we support 1,000,000 extra people in a country that’s going from recession to bust every 8 years, a crippling health service, brexit and now this Covid 19 rubbish... add that on top of a govt that clearly sees the Irish people as an inconvenience and prioritises the immigrant already. Where the fück will we be in 20 years time?!?

It’s literally population replacement. It actually says it in the document so don’t come on here and fücking lie to everyone.

punisher5112 wrote: »

Wasn't aware of that, so they won't have the best security services free of charge from the state for life.

Probably like the Dem mayors in the states wanting to get rid of Police forces, you can be sure they will be protected with the best private security tax money can buy.
Didnt they change the law a few weeks ago, we no longer can know what retired politicians are getting in their pension, i believe that tosser Ivan Yeats, constantly on Radio bitchin about the e350 a week covid payment is on a e1400 a week pension since the old age of 42.

SouthWesterly wrote: »

No he won't. That provision was abolished a few years ago

Wasn't aware of that, so they won't have the best security services free of charge from the state for life.

Strumms

SouthWesterly wrote: »

No he won't. That provision was abolished a few years ago

As of 2019 it was still in place, their Garda drivers however were removed.

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Strumms wrote: »

Wherever Leo is, he’ll be in a house on a hill, with Garda protecting him for the rest of his days.. .

No he won't. That provision was abolished a few years ago

Jaycee Attractive Applesauce wrote: »

More pressing and sudden wil be the 100,000 sudden job losses via the brexitious Jan 1st 2021. Both sides are playing hard ball, and the chance of any extension has now just been extinguished.

Skilled EU folks from Poland, Germany, France and so on would still be of great benefit, even with brexit/covid impacting.

However non-eu economic migrants are much harder to establish regarding skills, languages, certifiable education, verifiable work experience and so on.

Yes we are going to be in serious trouble as many other states.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

More fake news.

What that we aren't crippled?

We are going into a depression

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punisher5112 wrote: »

How will we be able to afford all they want to bring in?
We are absolutely screwed for years to come thanks to the inaction to covid

More pressing and sudden wil be the 100,000 sudden job losses via the brexitious Jan 1st 2021. Both sides are playing hard ball, and the chance of any extension has now just been extinguished.

Skilled EU folks from Poland, Germany, France and so on would still be of great benefit, even with brexit/covid impacting.

However non-eu economic migrants are much harder to establish regarding skills, languages, certifiable education, verifiable work experience and so on.

Jinglejangle69

da_miser wrote: »

Fake News? It's written in black and white in the Ireland 2040 document. In which it stated that it will increase the population by 1 million by 2040 and (direct quote):

"Given the demographic structure of Ireland and fertility and mortality trends, faster population growth would require higher international net immigration into Ireland. This would only arise if Ireland were sufficiently attractive economically and if migrants could find accommodation at affordable prices.

This implies that the average age across the population will increase more rapidly than has been the case and that unless immigration increases, overall population growth will slow."

Source:https://www.esri.ie/pubs/RS70.pdf

So no, it's completely factually accurate, you just want to play down the reality that the globalists will do to Ireland what they have already done to Germany and Sweden.

When I click your link its blue and I don't see anything you quoted.

I also don't see anything in your quote about Leo wanting to bring in 1 million immigrants by 2040.

But I'll be patient.