How long before Irish reunification? (Part 2) Threadbans in OP

FrancieBrady wrote: »

downcow is trying to represent the playing of football on a Sunday as a progressive decision when it was anything but. It was the usual kicking and screaming and 'Never Never Never our culture is under threat' insecure nonsense.

Francie to start that nonsense again. I simply pointed out that ML is absolutely categorically wrong when he claimed me beloved team never play on Sunday. Simple

Fionn1952

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Like they are all doing Francois, like they are all doing.

That’s progress for sure.

Even playgrounds I’m led to believe.

Yep... good way to make progress....:cool:

Raymond McCreesh is dead almost 40 years, Brendan.

I thought the Carson statue was fine because we have to live in the present and move forward?

Time to move on, buddy.

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Like they are all doing Francois, like they are all doing.

That’s progress for sure.

Even playgrounds I’m led to believe.

Yep... good way to make progress....:cool:

And you come on to scold somebody in your usual way that has no truck with any of that. And ignore somebody who is advocating and excusing it.

As I say typically revealing Brendy.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Eh, Brendi, I wasn't complaining about it. I don't have an issue.

You so reveal yourself in always attacking your boogeymen.

I neither could care less what Linfield do to pathetically try to antagonise, my issue was with somebody trying to pretend it wasn't done in full knowledge of what they were doing.

Like they are all doing Francois, like they are all doing.

That’s progress for sure.

Even playgrounds I’m led to believe.

Yep... good way to make progress....:cool:

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Good lad..... start 70 or 80 or so years back.

How about living in the present, dude, and looking forward.

Time to move on buddy, leave the windswept hills to the hoggets

Eh, Brendi, I wasn't complaining about it. I don't have an issue.

You so reveal yourself in always attacking your boogeymen.

I neither could care less what Linfield do to pathetically try to antagonise, my issue was with somebody trying to pretend it wasn't done in full knowledge of what they were doing.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No Brendan I wouldn't do that nor would anyone else. I don't get upset about memorials nor do I think they are put up to deliberately taunt.

The point I was making is that if you wish to stop people commemorating their dead, then it will have to be across the board.

Let's suggest starting with taking down the statue of the man who re-introduced the gun to Irish politics, Carson and go from there?

Good lad..... start 70 or 80 or so years back.

How about living in the present, dude, and looking forward.

Time to move on buddy, leave the windswept hills to the hoggets

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

So if someone named a stadium ‘The Adolf Hitler Memorial Stadium’ you would be fine with that.... remembering the dead, dude, nothing wrong with that.

Adolf played midfield for Leipzig Casuals!
Do you take people here for fools Francie.

That’s how it seems to this poster.

No Brendan I wouldn't do that nor would anyone else. I don't get upset about memorials nor do I think they are put up to deliberately taunt.

The point I was making is that if you wish to stop people commemorating their dead, then it will have to be across the board.

Let's suggest starting with taking down the statue of the man who re-introduced the gun to Irish politics, Carson and go from there?

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely people are allowed name pitches after whoever they want??

Same as linfield can have their uvf jerseys all they want....but orangemen can hardly cry foul,when catholics dont want to play or attend matches for NI in linfields home ground

Of course, but only complete tools and scrotes would think that it would be a good idea.

Can see how it could have traction in NI, in fairness.

They seem to be the type who would go for that kind of strategy.

Would promote unity and friendship certainly, promote mutual respect and camradarie.

Wouldn’t it!

[Deleted User]

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

So if someone named a stadium ‘The Adolf Hitler Memorial Stadium’ you would be fine with that.... remembering the dead, dude, nothing wrong with that.

Adolf played midfield for Leipzig Casuals!
Do you take people here for fools Francie.

That’s how it seems to this poster.

Surely people are allowed name pitches after whoever they want??

Same as linfield can have their uvf jerseys all they want....but orangemen can hardly cry foul,when catholics dont want to play or attend matches for NI in linfields home ground

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Again calling a pitch after somebody who was a club member is not done to taunt, it is done to remember the dead. We have had this debate before. Do you want to live in a place where the dead cannot be remembered? Remove all the memorials?

I think anyone engaging in sectarian abuse should be disciplined.

What?

So if someone named a stadium ‘The Adolf Hitler Memorial Stadium’ you would be fine with that.... remembering the dead, dude, nothing wrong with that.

Adolf played midfield for Leipzig Casuals!
Do you take people here for fools Francie.

That’s how it seems to this poster.

downcow wrote: »

So they should not host Wolfe tonne concerts?

How is holding a concert 'deliberately taunting'? Nobody is forcing you to go to a concert to be offended downcow, just like you guys wouldn't force anybody to watch an Orange parade.

They should not have pitches named after ‘freedom fighters’?

Again calling a pitch after somebody who was a club member is not done to taunt, it is done to remember the dead. We have had this debate before. Do you want to live in a place where the dead cannot be remembered? Remove all the memorials?

They should discipline their players for sectarian abuse of young girls in a band ?

I think anyone engaging in sectarian abuse should be disciplined.

You condemn the commemoration shirts like proclamation and hunger strikes?
Etc?

What?

downcow wrote: »

Haha. Anything other than say ML is wrong and DC is correct. Lol

downcow is trying to represent the playing of football on a Sunday as a progressive decision when it was anything but. It was the usual kicking and screaming and 'Never Never Never our culture is under threat' insecure nonsense.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If the GAA are involved in deliberately taunting they'll get just the same amount of criticism from me.

So they should not host Wolfe tonne concerts?
They should not have pitches named after ‘freedom fighters’?
They should discipline their players for sectarian abuse of young girls in a band ?
You condemn the commemoration shirts like proclamation and hunger strikes?
Etc?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They do their level best not to play on a Sunday having only lifted the ban relatively recently because of a challenge by the Equality Commission.
They play on a Sunday because they be disqualified if they don't.

Haha. Anything other than say ML is wrong and DC is correct. Lol

munsterlegend

downcow wrote: »

More untruths. I have attended several ni international matches on a Sunday. Or maybe you will tell me I am dreaming.

Which is it? A sash or a Uvf shirt. Make up your mind.

The sash across a sports jersey is used by teams across the world (all honouring the orange order lol). Have a look how many gaa shirts have copied same design from football.

As Francis said an orange sash is totally different.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/backlash-as-linfield-consider-ditching-no-sunday-games-rule-38414388.html

How many league matches are played on a Sunday up there?

downcow wrote: »

I suppose the very fact this is being raised by you as an issues demonstrates that you accept football operates at a more inclusive level than gaa. You don’t even blink when the gaa get up to all its paramilitary symbolism

If the GAA are involved in deliberately taunting they'll get just the same amount of criticism from me.

downcow wrote: »

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-53025527

......and the main complainant LOL
https://mobile.twitter.com/emeraldunion/status/1271585957079388161

Neither Stephen Farry nor Double Decker bars have a sectarian history of hate.

downcow wrote: »

So Francie why don’t you tell munsterlegend that he is simply wrong and that ni do play matches on a Sunday ??

They do their level best not to play on a Sunday having only lifted the ban relatively recently because of a challenge by the Equality Commission.
They play on a Sunday because they be disqualified if they don't.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

downcow, stop digging on this one. An orange sash? Are you having a laugh?

I suppose the very fact this is being raised by you as an issues demonstrates that you accept football operates at a more inclusive level than gaa. You don’t even blink when the gaa get up to all its paramilitary symbolism

FrancieBrady wrote: »

downcow, stop digging on this one. An orange sash? Are you having a laugh?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-53025527

......and the main complainant LOL
https://mobile.twitter.com/emeraldunion/status/1271585957079388161

FrancieBrady wrote: »

downcow, stop digging on this one. An orange sash? Are you having a laugh?

So Francie why don’t you tell munsterlegend that he is simply wrong and that ni do play matches on a Sunday ??

downcow wrote: »

More untruths. I have attended several ni international matches on a Sunday. Or maybe you will tell me I am dreaming.

Which is it? A sash or a Uvf shirt. Make up your mind.

The sash across a sports jersey is used by teams across the world (all honouring the orange order lol). Have a look how many gaa shirts have copied same design from football.

downcow, stop digging on this one. An orange sash? Are you having a laugh?

munsterlegend wrote: »

Are you for real? A football club and ground synonymous with sectarianism produces a jersey with an orange sash on it and colours used on all UVF banners. Whoever commissioned the jersey is either brain dead or wants to provoke a reaction and sell jerseys.

One actually forgets how backward the ifa is and linfield. Won’t even play a match on a Sunday or would the international team. Some laugh.

More untruths. I have attended several ni international matches on a Sunday. Or maybe you will tell me I am dreaming.

Which is it? A sash or a Uvf shirt. Make up your mind.

The sash across a sports jersey is used by teams across the world (all honouring the orange order lol). Have a look how many gaa shirts have copied same design from football.

munsterlegend

downcow wrote: »

Here is what my local councillor has just posted on this issue. A great guy who is doing his very best in this sf dominated constituency I live in.

“ The hypocrisy and public hysteria over the new Linfield top is laughable, but sinister as it exposes the underlying distaste for Unionism. The opportunistic chance to batter a football club, linking it to paramilitaries, dragging it through the gutter stinks of bandwagon politics. The idiotic
ramblings from some quarters of nationalism / media & left wing politicians is actually surprising...

The GAA as a sporting organisation need to focus on housekeeping, I’m not attacking them or engaging in whataboutry but there are no football grounds named after terrorists, no cup challenges dedicated to killers and the Irish league have done a lot to stamp out sectarianism.

I’m a Portadown man..... I’d never be seen in a Linfield top (Cos let’s face it ... Upa Porty Down) but this is getting ridiculous... it’s silly verging on childish... that’s what’s wrong with this bloody country, too much focus on trivial nonsense... build a bridge get over it..... it’s a football top... the UVF haven’t a copy right on purple and orange, put your big boy pants on and get a box of tissues to wipe your tears.”

Ps the gaa/republican nice people who have raised this have guaranteed that infield shirt sales will go through the roof. Can they not see this through their bigotry

Edit. And some wonderful responseS lol. Pictures of stephen farry alliance receiving his degree in a gown of exactly same colours as well as points about the Glens wearing the Palestinian colours ....and it goes on and on. lol. You need to grow up munstrrlegend

Are you for real? A football club and ground synonymous with sectarianism produces a jersey with an orange sash on it and colours used on all UVF banners. Whoever commissioned the jersey is either brain dead or wants to provoke a reaction and sell jerseys.

One actually forgets how backward the ifa is and linfield. Won’t even play a match on a Sunday or would the international team. Some laugh.

munsterlegend wrote: »

Or the new Linfield UVF top a team who plays at Windsor park the home of the north’s football team. Some things never change.

Here is what my local councillor has just posted on this issue. A great guy who is doing his very best in this sf dominated constituency I live in.

“ The hypocrisy and public hysteria over the new Linfield top is laughable, but sinister as it exposes the underlying distaste for Unionism. The opportunistic chance to batter a football club, linking it to paramilitaries, dragging it through the gutter stinks of bandwagon politics. The idiotic
ramblings from some quarters of nationalism / media & left wing politicians is actually surprising...

The GAA as a sporting organisation need to focus on housekeeping, I’m not attacking them or engaging in whataboutry but there are no football grounds named after terrorists, no cup challenges dedicated to killers and the Irish league have done a lot to stamp out sectarianism.

I’m a Portadown man..... I’d never be seen in a Linfield top (Cos let’s face it ... Upa Porty Down) but this is getting ridiculous... it’s silly verging on childish... that’s what’s wrong with this bloody country, too much focus on trivial nonsense... build a bridge get over it..... it’s a football top... the UVF haven’t a copy right on purple and orange, put your big boy pants on and get a box of tissues to wipe your tears.”

Ps the gaa/republican nice people who have raised this have guaranteed that infield shirt sales will go through the roof. Can they not see this through their bigotry

Edit. And some wonderful responseS lol. Pictures of stephen farry alliance receiving his degree in a gown of exactly same colours as well as points about the Glens wearing the Palestinian colours ....and it goes on and on. lol. You need to grow up munstrrlegend

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Always turn it personal Francie .....

We had a few bad years, but turned it around again

How many bad years have the North had because of the likes of SF? Also with no sign of it ever getting better

You can go in circles all you want, this is a thread about the North and for all your complaining about FF and FG they have made a country that huge sections of the North work in and live in because they can get away from parties like SF. How many young people from the North move to UK as well to get away?

This is a great question. We get bombarded with the roi ‘is perfect’. Look how many people are working in roi from that black hole in the north (mind you I hear an awful lot of southern brogues day and daily here).
I wonder are there stats on how many move out of ni but stay with in our nation of uk. Really interesting question. I am guessing the numbers moving to roi pale into insignificance with the numbers from ni moving within the uk. ....and I would never claim that this is because the other three countries in uk ‘are perfect’.