epfff wrote: » Factory prices fell in the knowledge there friends in Government will provide lifeline to keep suppliers from exiting the business. I did accept Beam I will accept next payment because it helps to keep me a float but I do believe these payments are of more long term benefit to processors than farmers. If these payments stoped and market forces made producers leave the industry processors would have to pay higher prices or they would run out of raw material.
kk.man wrote: » I had 28 eligible cattle for BEAM if this new scheme runs from the start of Covid till now I'll get nothing. I have the same amount of cattle as I had. They will want to think this thing out.
Duke92 wrote: » Why should you get anything if you didn’t kill cattle since Covid
Say my name wrote: » Apologies for sullying the thread with the G word. But with the negotiations ongoing to form a government. With this €50m passed it makes you wonder what concessions the Green party have been granted to get their approval of this €50m going to beef finishers. We'll know in time I suppose.
epfff wrote: » Or is it the first purchase of votes for a election I'm September
kk.man wrote: » That is a fair question however Creed said its aimed at the beef finisher and I am one. The second point is prices are depressed at both ends of the proposed reference period and why should the finisher lose out just because of a reference period in which not many ppl kill cattle in.
Duke92 wrote: » Yes have been for a while But the ppl killed cattle at €3:40 I wouldn’t begrudge them getting it I killed most in jan feb and done ok what I expected but if I had to kill them at €3:40 my profit would be gone I’ve only 12 since March 1
morphy87 wrote: » Your right about the price but I sent cattle off last November and only got 3.40 and lost my quality assurance whereas compared to September 18 I got 3.75 plus my quality assurance of 12 cents and then beam on top of it, it was last fall where people needed some sort of payment,
kk.man wrote: » That's my point only big guys, contractors and feedlots finish cattle at that time of the year average and small guys are from mid year onwards.
ruwithme wrote: » Bound to be a improvement in price soon. local mc Donald's has a queue going round in many circles by all accounts today. no doubt replicated across the island and in the uk and beyond
Duke92 wrote: » I wouldn’t agree with you on the feed lots I know of three that have turned to dairy in the last few years The factory own feed lots are a different story shouldn’t be allowed
Bass Reeves wrote: » This is the second time in as many years that winter finisher's will be bailed out. I agree that COVID was an unexpected shock to the system but constant bailing out encourages lads to stay in a system where the margin is low. If the market was left to control itself lads would start to exit winter finishing this would force processor's and retailers to forward price contracts. Winter finishing is popular by some bigger lads. They do not want to finish cattle off grass as it involves a lot of labour. It much easier to fill sheds with cattle and have them fed in 3-4 hours in a day. This can be seen from the fact that over the last few years the winter kill exceeds the summer kill. It is now nearly comparable with Autumn slaughtering. In the drystock sector the only case that is made for extra money is for winter finisher's. We had the drought in 2018 and there was a hooha going looking for money but in the end it was the BEAM scheme that was put in place. After this the hooha will start for the grain growers. But it a case of f@@k the rest of us
Duke92 wrote: » Totally agree People should be able to work the market and be able for the risks I’d love to see the single farm payment gone to The good farmers would survive and the ones just making up the numbers would go
Danzy wrote: » You wouldn't be selling in to a free market but a monopoly. The single farm payment is only to ensure a steady and cheap supply of food. Good farmers, bad farmers are all secondary to that.
Deleted User wrote: » New scheme is pointless Larry goodman,will just find a way to take it off beef finishers,while also pocketing it off his feedlots aswell.. Whole thing screams corruption
Dickie10 wrote: » just watched an old ear to the ground form last year, there was a segment on the "beef crisis" can anyone remember a time when they could say the beef industry was not in crisis in the last 20 years , so from june 2000 when were the good times in beef? where was money made? what sytem was the most profit? e.g calf to beef, suckler to beef, suckler to weanling etc
MIKEKC wrote: » Why is Larry Goodman always mentioned in a negative way ?. Do the other factory owners pay more ?
wrangler wrote: » To fill their feedlots processors'll surely have to pay over the odds for cattle same as everyone else, fools say they manipulate the autumn price to keep down store price when in reality store price bears little relation to beef price all year. All these conspiracy theories are a joke, any farmer feeding cattle of any age and hurling vile abuse at processors/politicians are only the lowest of the low. There's enough suicide from cyber abuse without them contributing If they're not satisfied they should f... off and do something else. Creed claimed beef farmers got 200m in the last year, if that's no good, then it's time to man up and move on
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