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Cycling on paths and other cycling issues (updated title)

Rogerrabit

Hi cycling in footpaths is very dangerous for pedestrians especially now with this virus pandemic. Every day I witness these events cyclists on the footpaths spewing out germs as they cycle past pedestrians less than two feet from them. If any of these cyclists have the virus the pedestrians have no chance they will pick up the disease. Why do the police allow this carry on. They should be protecting the elderly instead of turning a blind eye to this outrageous carryon. What do yo think out there in Ireland the country whose population do not know how to wear a facemask.

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TaurenDruid

07Lapierre wrote: »

Probably because the bike lanes are not being used!

What has that photo got to do with my post?

07Lapierre

TaurenDruid wrote: »

What has that photo got to do with my post?

Its a photo of a bike lane that's not blocked by bikes.

SeanW

It doesn't seem directly relevant to the post, seems like it would be better suited to the bad parking thread.

07Lapierre

Cars parked in a cycle lane is an issue? "Cycling on paths and other cycling issues"

jackofalltrades

07Lapierre wrote: »

Cars parked in a cycle lane is an issue? "Cycling on paths and other cycling issues"

A thread combining people complaining about cyclists behaviour and cyclist complaining about their issues wouldn't make a lot of sense though.
And would probably be a bit of a mess, like this one seems to be.
"Cycling on paths and other issues with cyclists behaviour" would be a lot better title IMO.
And would be in keeping somewhat with the OP.
Maybe a Mod could clarify.

Pinch Flat

07Lapierre wrote: »

Probably because the bike lanes are not being used!

Good to see life slowly returning to normal. I'm expecting the ew condd off cycle lanes in the Phoenix park to be heavily abused over the coming weeks. Already saw one motorist trying it for size driving in it the other evening- so convenient that the width of the cones exactly match the width of her car.

[Deleted User]

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Jaysus! Yeah, that's gonna be fun... Already seeing bleeperbikes left in weird places around Dublin, but none actually blocking paths or cycle lanes yet.

Wait till you hear about cars Tauren.

[Deleted User]

TaurenDruid wrote: »

On every journey? Really, Andrew? Really?

Amazing how you notice that on every journey, but completely miss the cyclists flying through red lights, and cyclists using their phones while actually cycling on the road and/or footpath. (I could have just said "cyclists with phones" but that would have led to a response that it's perfectly fine to have your phone in an armband or on your handlebars).

Cognitive bias, maybe?

Yes, really.

Why would you assume that I completely miss cyclists doing those things?

Chiparus

TaurenDruid wrote: »

On every journey? Really, Andrew? Really?

Amazing how you notice that on every journey, but completely miss the cyclists flying through red lights, and cyclists using their phones while actually cycling on the road and/or footpath. (I could have just said "cyclists with phones" but that would have led to a response that it's perfectly fine to have your phone in an armband or on your handlebars).

Cognitive bias, maybe?

Every drive home I do in the winter I see cars with only one headlamp working, every day I see cars driving on footpaths. Every day I see cars breaking red and amber lights.

07Lapierre

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Wait till you hear about cars Tauren.

I'm glad someone see's the relevance of me posting that photo!

wonski

07Lapierre wrote: »

Probably because the bike lanes are not being used!

That's fantastic.

I wonder if I could be fined for parking in actual parking spot next to them, but obstructing them at the same time.

Is that definitely real, or where they doing line paintings or something? Because that looks ****ing unreal tbh....

ewc78

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Good to see life slowly returning to normal. I'm expecting the ew condd off cycle lanes in the Phoenix park to be heavily abused over the coming weeks. Already saw one motorist trying it for size driving in it the other evening- so convenient that the width of the cones exactly match the width of her car.

Was in the Phoenix Park meself this evening for a quick run before I headed home to greener pastures and cleaner air for the weekend.
Didn't see any cars in the new cycle lane but did see a Tour de France wannabe have a line of cars behind him because he was cycling up Chesterfield Avenue in the middle of the road rather than use the new cycle lane.
Also a bunch of rowdy youths on bikes went past me when I was running on the new pedestrian lane, cycle lane right beside them but for some reason they were on the path.
Enjoyed my run anyway.

magicbastarder

ewc78 wrote: »

did see a Tour de France wannabe a man on a bike

FYP

Hurrache

ewc78 wrote: »

Was in the Phoenix Park meself this evening for a quick run before I headed home to greener pastures and cleaner air for the weekend.
Didn't see any cars in the new cycle lane but did see a Tour de France wannabe have a line of cars behind him because he was cycling up Chesterfield Avenue in the middle of the road rather than use the new cycle lane.
Also a bunch of rowdy youths on bikes went past me when I was running on the new pedestrian lane, cycle lane right beside them but for some reason they were on the path.
Enjoyed my run anyway.

Did you catch his team?

Fair play to him, if he's as talented as you make out the cars behind wouldn't have been able to keep up with him anyway, low speed limits in the park.

So pats on the back all round, bring badges next time so you can hand them out.

roofer1988

Cyclists are always in the way,no consideration for anyone or anything only their own ego.Off crying then when someone insults them or drives passed them even though that person probably pays road tax,insurance,VRT,and tax on diesel. But make way for the people on bikes in the way putting down the day

Hurrache

roofer1988 wrote: »

But make way for the people on bikes

And don't you dare forget it.

BTW, what's road tax?

07Lapierre

roofer1988 wrote: »

Cyclists are always in the way,no consideration for anyone or anything only their own ego.Off crying then when someone insults them or drives passed them even though that person probably pays road tax,insurance,VRT,and tax on diesel. But make way for the people on bikes in the way putting down the day

I had this conversation over on the motors forum. Your driving a car . Inexperienced drivers find it difficult to overtake any slow moving traffic. But trust me, as you gain experience and confidence, it gets easier.

Zebra3

roofer1988 wrote: »

Cyclists are always in the way

That's simply a lie.

Pinch Flat

ewc78 wrote: »

Was in the Phoenix Park meself this evening for a quick run before I headed home to greener pastures and cleaner air for the weekend.
Didn't see any cars in the new cycle lane but did see a Tour de France wannabe have a line of cars behind him because he was cycling up Chesterfield Avenue in the middle of the road rather than use the new cycle lane.
Also a bunch of rowdy youths on bikes went past me when I was running on the new pedestrian lane, cycle lane right beside them but for some reason they were on the path.
Enjoyed my run anyway.

That could be me any evening. Last time I checked the roads are legal to cycle on. Had this law changed over night?

Enjoyed my cycle anyway

Chiparus

roofer1988 wrote: »

Cyclists are always in the way,no consideration for anyone or anything only their own ego.Off crying then when someone insults them or drives passed them even though that person probably pays road tax,insurance,VRT,and tax on diesel. But make way for the people on bikes in the way putting down the day

Some drivers are so stupid , paying road tax ha ha.

SeanW

Hurrache wrote: »

And don't you dare forget it.

BTW, what's road tax?

A road usage tax paid by motorists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_tax

Technically known as "Motor Tax."

ewc78

Pinch Flat wrote: »

That could be me any evening. Last time I checked the roads are legal to cycle on. Had this law changed over night?

Enjoyed my cycle anyway

Did I say it wasn't legal? I checked my post again and nope, no mention of me saying it wasn't legal.
It was bad road etiquette though imo, brand new wide cycle lane there, but no I'll be an arse and cycle in the middle of the road. Didn't hold me up though so I wasn't fussed.

Glad you enjoyed your cycle.

07Lapierre

SeanW wrote: »

A road usage tax paid by motorists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_tax

Technically known as "Motor Tax."

No..it's a tax paid by people who have a Private motor. Using the road is optional. I pay €750 per year for my car. My wife pays €280! That's why I hurl abuse at her every time I pass her on the road!

07Lapierre

wonski wrote: »

That's fantastic.

I wonder if I could be fined for parking in actual parking spot next to them, but obstructing them at the same time.

Is that definitely real, or where they doing line paintings or something? Because that looks ****ing unreal tbh....

It's real alright!

Chiparus

SeanW wrote: »

A road usage tax paid by motorists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_tax

Technically known as "Motor Tax."

No it actually an emissions based motor tax, not all based on road usage, its based on how much polution we produce.

Roads are paid for by general taxation.

Chiparus

07Lapierre wrote: »

No..it's a tax paid by people who have a Private motor. Using the road is optional. I pay €750 per year for my car. My wife pays €280! That's why I hurl abuse at her every time I pass her on the road!

I pay only €56 for my 911, you should abuse all people in classic cars , clearly you are more entitled to the road than they are.

07Lapierre

Chiparus wrote: »

I pay only €56 for my 911, you should abuse all people in classic cars , clearly you are more entitled to the road than they are.

Agree with you. Classic cars have no business on our roads! Roads are for hardworking taxpayers only! Like cyclists, classic car drivers should take their "hobby" somewhere else!

SeanW

07Lapierre wrote: »

No..it's a tax paid by people who have a Private motor. Using the road is optional. I pay €750 per year for my car. My wife pays €280! That's why I hurl abuse at her every time I pass her on the road!

It has nothing to do with motor ownership. If a motor vehicle is not on the road, it is not liable for "motor" tax. You pay to use the roads with a motor vehicle, that's why people call it road tax. This is true whether the car was first registered before July 2008 (in which the bands are calculated based on engine CC) or after (in which case, it's based on CO2/km figures).

Of course, you may want to be very precise with your legal terminology, like how the Sean O'Casey bridge (and every other footpath in the State) is legally a footway, for the exclusive use of pedestrians and ... oh snap ...

Or how (on the books at least) red lights are supposed to instruct all road vehicles (including bicycles) to stop and wait, so cyclists always stop and wait there and ... umm ... uhhh ...

Come to think of it, maybe cyclists aren't really qualified to tell anyone to refer to the legal terminology.

Chiparus

07Lapierre wrote: »

Agree with you. Classic cars have no business on our roads! Roads are for hardworking taxpayers only! Like cyclists, classic car drivers should take their "hobby" somewhere else!

Road tax ( full rate-) payers only you mean.

07Lapierre

SeanW wrote: »

It has nothing to do with motor ownership. If a motor vehicle is not on the road, it is not liable for "motor" tax. You pay to use the roads with a motor vehicle, that's why people call it road tax. This is true whether the car was first registered before July 2008 (in which the bands are calculated based on engine CC) or after (in which case, it's based on CO2/km figures).

Of course, you may want to be very precise with your legal terminology, like how the Sean O'Casey bridge (and every other footpath in the State) is legally a footway, for the exclusive use of pedestrians and ... oh crap ...

Or how (on the books at least) red lights are supposed to instruct all road vehicles[/S] (including bicycles) to stop and wait ... ah S@#%.

that's correct. Red lights mean stop, footpaths are for peds only.

Did you think I didn't know that?