WastedYouth wrote: » What happened on Liveline?
tobefrank321 wrote: » My problem with Leo is he's had 3 years to do something about this issue as Taoiseach. He's had 9 years in government to do something about it. And he only mentions it now when it becomes the major international issue of our time and even then only pays lip service to it. Bring in the heads of the civil service and ask them to do something about it, instead of making some big PR show and then doing nothing. Unless of course he has actually no intention of doing anything about it.
Deleted User wrote: » I would. It's a continuation of the push for multiculturalism, even though multiculturalism has consistently created severe social problems in every country it has been implemented in. Not in the short term, but definitely in the medium to long term. It's a stupid thing to push, and only encourages division, because he's giving approval to minority activists to complain about racism, discrimination, etc regardless of the practical realities.
Wibbs wrote: » Well you've hit the nail on the head there. "Diversity" only seems to apply to White people and nations. Your "progressives" see a White majority nation and culture and insist it needs "diversity". The right kind of course, IE more non Whites. A few thousand Italians/Spaniards/Germans won't cut it. East Asian folks don't really cut it so much either. Now if one were to suggest after an hour walking around say Kampala that what this place needs is a load more White folks, there would be ructions, much gnashing of teeth and noises about colonialism and cultural appropriation and the like, but oul Whitey needs more dark faces to be "correct". It's utter bollocks and as so called "multicultural" nations have shown causes all sorts of extra divisions and social problems, not least for the non native population and for generations with it. Show me any multicultural nation where social progress and social issues aren't drawn along racial lines. Good luck with that. Ireland has until very recently been a largely monocultural country, certainly along "race" lines, yet even in that brief snapshot of time since the late 90's where that changed and not by much either, we're already seeing the seeds of the crap of every single other European nation that has run this idiotic social experiment has had to deal with and continues to deal with. Modern multiculturalism doesn't work. Can multiculturalism work? Rarely, but it has to a large degree a few times in history, the Roman Empire, the Islamic empire, the Chinese empire to some degree. And that's the irony; it only seems to work in cultures that are more hardline and rigid, even "right wing" in outlook, and most of all cock sure of themselves as a culture. It most certainly doesn't work in cultures without a clear self confidence and a lack of self loathing.
punisher5112 wrote: » Basically it's been turned into a BLM all out war and Irish are racists etc....
Sarcozies wrote: » So you're saying we can expect the Roman Empire, Islamic Empire and Chinese Empire to be joined shortly by Leo and the boys as the case studies to be learned for centuries to come as to how to do multiculturalism?
We're the strangest bunch. We constantly moan about how inept our government is and always was and yet we expect them to take on a task that only a handful, maybe none ever, have accomplished? Ha.
Mr. Karate wrote: » That's RTE in general now. Its been that way for a while. They just weren't as obvious about it. And then they wonder why the Irish don't want to pay the license fee.
yenom wrote: » There are three exams to get into the civil service. The exams are corrected by a computer. Either you pass them or you don't. The computer doesn't know what you look like.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Exams? I’ve been through the process 15 times and there was never an exam. There is a box to tick for being black however.
yenom wrote: » There's three online and then supervised exams. An English exam, a Maths exam and a spot the difference exam. The option to give your race and gender is optional.
Hunky Monster wrote: » It must depend on what job you’re applying for. I’ve never had to do an exam. The box ticking for traveller, black, gay was on all of my forms.
Sarcozies wrote: » So you're saying we can expect the Roman Empire, Islamic Empire and Chinese Empire to be joined shortly by Leo and the boys as the case studies to be learned for centuries to come as to how to do multiculturalism? We're the strangest bunch. We constantly moan about how inept our government is and always was and yet we expect them to take on a task that only a handful, maybe none ever, have accomplished? Ha.
conorhal wrote: » The real question to ask is HOW did those empires ( Roman Empire, Islamic Empire and Chinese Empire) successfully manage multuculturalism? The answer is massive degrees of brutal authoritarianism, and we're seeing it now in the ever tightening grip European governments are excercising on speach.
Ninthlife wrote: » Those forms are for statistical purposes and are not connected to your application.
Tea drinker wrote: » I thought this was a joke :-( Surely this is something private which should not be shared or open to any abuse, fully transparent process?
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » the first big influx of immigrants only arrived 20 years ago their kids are only in college now how would they be working in the civil service at this stage?
conorhal wrote: » The real question to ask is HOW did those empires ( Roman Empire, Islamic Empire and Chinese Empire) successfully manage multuculturalism? The answer is massive degrees of brutal authoritarianism, and we're seeing it now in the ever tightening grip European governments are excercising on speach. With rioters tearing down statues and looting.. who are the police arresting? Teenagers making fun of of a violent thug drug addict on Snapchat.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-teens-who-mocked-george-22122018 If you're an authoritarian regime, control of the narrative is very important.
CrankyHaus wrote: » If you say so. I don't have significant experience of the Civil Service. But I have plenty with semi-states, Councils and other parts of the public sector; and they're highly nepotistic. That includes organisations that nominally hire through the Public Appointments Service and I've found that any reputation for independent merit-based selection is a myth. Without further evidence I see no reason to believe that the Civil Service is some shining beacon of best-practice in that grubby sea of nepotism.
Wibbs wrote: » Well you've hit the nail on the head there. "Diversity" only seems to apply to White people and nations. Your "progressives" see a White majority nation and culture and insist it needs "diversity". The right kind of course, IE more non Whites. A few thousand Italians/Spaniards/Germans won't cut it. East Asian folks don't really cut it so much either. Now if one were to suggest after an hour walking around say Kampala that what this place needs is a load more White folks, there would be ructions, much gnashing of teeth and noises about colonialism and cultural appropriation and the like, but oul Whitey needs more dark faces to be "correct". It's utter bollocks and as so called "multicultural" nations have shown causes all sorts of extra divisions and social problems, not least for the non native population and for generations with it. Show me any multicultural nation where social progress and social issues aren't drawn along racial lines. Good luck with that.
SouthWesterly wrote: » So you've no experience with the CS but can comment with some sense of authority. The process is: You register your interest in a job and complete an application form which is submitted online. At a point in time everyone who applied completes an online aptitude test and if they pass, they get placed based on score. They will then do a supervised test (same one) and if they passed they are further placed. large diversity in the 2 scores are deemed cheating as the first one is unsupervised. There are cameras in the testing room. An interview process is then completed based on your application form. Depending on the grade, there are other online supervised exams. If you pass the interview, you are placed for appointment to a department. Anyone with an Irish or EU citizenship can apply. Where is the nepotism?
Strumms wrote: » Multicultural and diversity are terms that I’ve no time for, what I do have time for... fairness. If I’m hiring 6 bus drivers tomorrow and I have 4 African applicants, 4 members of the traveling community applying, 4 Irish females applying, 4 Irish males and 4 mixed LGBT people applying... I don’t care, I’m STILL hiring who I believe are the 6 best most suitable candidates... My first priority is to the customers, my second to the staff.... I care not one fùck about anybody waving flags, waving an agenda, looking for xyz criteria to be met.. you have the expertise, qualifications, experience, attitude and aptitude to do the job, you’ll get hired, I don’t care about your background, your troubles, your struggles, any of it.... Equal opportunity is that, equal for everyone...I owe myself, my colleagues, staff and customers to hire the best... that’s what I’ll endeavor to do.
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