Mortelaro wrote: » Actually FG haven't ran DCC in a decade SF ran it with the greens and labour up until last year when Sinn Fein lost half its seats Its currently run by FF, greens Labour and the soc dems
Leonard Hofstadter wrote: » Ah good lord, don't let the facts get in the way of our three amigos having a good whinge and moan about Fine Gael and blaming them for every kind of 'problem' out there, both real and imagined.
StackSteevens wrote: » Ah, but the tinfoil hat brigade know that FG don't actually have to be in power in DCC to be running things! It's all done by a combination of smoke, mirrors, nudges, winks, masonic handshakes and voodoo.
Bowie wrote: » Last time I did this FG came out on top and as far as I recall FF/FG ran it during Kenny's time because I've looked into this SF led LA's claim before. Any road up the claim was FG had nothing to do with the Donnybrook apartment allocation because the LA was SF and PBP led. This is not the case. FG have the most seats in SDCC with FF second. FF have the most seats in DCC with FG second. So I'm not sure how you came to "Its currently run by FF, greens Labour and the soc dems".
Mortelaro wrote: » DCC was run by SF ,labour and the greens untill may 2019 That is fact In may 2019 SF lost half their seats FF labour greens and Soc Dems are now the governing block on the city council That is fact Fg were opposition last term and again this- Fact
markodaly wrote: » I think its a bit of a joke, but this is Dublin City Council who are controlled by FF, Labour, SD's and the Greens.FG has not had a say in DCC for years now, as the last crowd to control the council were SF and the PBP crowd. In other words, zero, nada and nothing to do with FG.
Bowie wrote: » That's a stretch. You suggest FF are in a block separate from FG while partners in government in all practicality? 2009: Lab: 19 FG: 12 SF: 7 FF: 6 PBP: 2 GP: 0 2014: SF: 16 FF: 9 FG: 8 Lab: 8 PBP: 5 GP: 3 2019: FF: 11 GP: 10 FG: 9 SF: 8 Lab: 8 SD: 5 PBP: 2 Also the claim was: We digress. The claim was SF and PBP were responsible for the Donnybrook apartment allocation because they led the council. This is not true. Also it's South-DCC. Also don't forget the Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Authorities is a Fine Gael chap.
Bowie wrote: » Not so. We hear this a lot but FF/FG are very strong on the councils. This is South Dublin County Council who look after Donnybrook. FG: 8 FF: 8 IND: 7 SF: 5 GP: 4 LAB: 1 SD: 1 SOL.: 1 PBP: 1 Some facts there now. That said, LA's are working under The Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government, unless this is one of these times a minister isn't responsible for their job? No worries, the FG strong council are there. Before you decide the facts make this nothing to do with you: Dublin City Council: For all my Boardsie chums who like to use the LA's to defend government policy... FF: 11 FG: 9 GP: 9 SF: 8 PBP: 2. So not PBP not SF running it, more FG and FF.
Bowie wrote: » This is South Dublin County Council who look after Donnybrook.
Cairn Homes has agreed in principle a €30.175 million deal to sell 61 apartments to Dublin City Council for social housing from its planned development on former RTE lands at Donnybrook Dublin 4.
Some facts there now. That said, LA's are working under The Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government, unless this is one of these times a minister isn't responsible for their job?
Before you decide the facts make this nothing to do with you:
Dublin City Council: For all my Boardsie chums who like to use the LA's to defend government policy... FF: 11 FG: 9 GP: 9 SF: 8 PBP: 2. So not PBP not SF running it, more FG and FF.
blanch152 wrote: » South Dublin County Council look after Donnybrook?.??? Tell that to the folks in the rugby club or the RDS. I know your posts are generally fact-free zones, but that is funny.
Bowie wrote: » Last time I did this FG came out on top and as far as I recall FF/FG ran it during Kenny's time because I've looked into this SF led LA's claim before. Any road up the claim was FG had nothing to do with the Donnybrook apartment allocation because the LA was SF and PBP led. This is not the case. FG have the most seats in SDCC with FF second. FF have the most seats in DCC with FG second.
So I'm not sure how you came to "Its currently run by FF, greens Labour and the soc dems".
The recently released “Dublin Agreement” sets out a lengthy list of aspirations for the city, but how will it be implemented? And how will it be paid for?The agreement was drafted by the four parties in Dublin City Council’s new “voting pact” or new “ruling group”: Fianna Fáil (which has the most seats), the Green Party, the Labour Party, and the Social Democrats. Between them, they hold 34 of the 63 seats in the chamber.
iebamm2580 wrote: » Another own goal from that idiot Charlie Flanagan on twitter.https://mobile.twitter.com/CharlieFlanagan/status/1270083860907413504
Leonard Hofstadter wrote: » How is it an own goal? Do Black Lives only matter when they are needlessly killed by the cops in the US? I would have thought it was really relevant given that it is calling out the hypocrisy of some of those supporting the BLM movement here.
McMurphy wrote: » Several examples of how it's not only inappropriate but yet another example of Charlie (the man partly responsible for FG being handed their holes in Feb because black and take) putting his big foot in his gob.https://twitter.com/GrainneFerris/status/1270111187968102401?s=19https://twitter.com/GabeFin/status/1270121048726540290?s=19 Charlie was shamefully trying to imply the fellas who's corpses are being waved about were killed because of their skin.colour, which is obviously BS. FG could do with jettisoning him, I thought Hogan and Reilly were obnoxious tests, but Charlie is outdoing either of them.
Bishop of hope wrote: » The last ones a bit odd isn't it. A racist tweet in its own way. Then you have Nelson Mandela shaking hands with the man who said he felt like a N****r after watching a film.
McMurphy wrote: » The context of Adams tweet was clearly understood by anyone not wanting to feign outrage imo. Charlie Flanagan just cannot help himself. He's a bumbling idiot and they need to keep him on a tighter leash.
FrancieBrady wrote: » If you wanted evidence of how seriously rattled the power swap is, then that is it. Also evidence, that in the minds of some an election is coming. A partitionist exploiting victims for political purposes, what a surprise.
Mortelaro wrote: » Tbh,I wouldn't be wheeling out Charlie Flanagan to support that theory He's just militant anti SF Probably made more virulent because he has access to Garda files
FrancieBrady wrote: » There's evidence in Garda files that these men were killed because they were black? Big claim there Mort.
Mortelaro wrote: » Stop talking sho1te You know that's not what I said
FrancieBrady wrote: » You excused his behaviour because he has access to Garda files. Own what you say Mort. Do you think he was right to tweet what he did?
Mortelaro wrote: » I know you're not a slow learner but I'll parse what I said for you again anyway for the avoidance of all doubt I wouldn't wheel out charlie for his SF hysteria because hes very anti SF anyway This is probably more virulent because he reads Garda files in his spare time
markodaly wrote: » Another classic from Matt! Em, because these parties came to an agreement to run the council?https://www.dublininquirer.com/2019/06/26/a-closer-look-at-how-dublin-city-councillors-plan-to-turn-promises-into-progress
FrancieBrady wrote: » You wouldn't wheel out Charlie because he reads Garda files?
So parsing what you said - either there is evidence in these 'files' that these men were killed because of their skin colour or else Charlie was telling lies and using a fashionable cause for political gain.
Do you think he was right to tweet what he did?
Mortelaro wrote: » I wouldn't wheel him out for his beliefs no they're common enough on the island I parsed perfectly a 2nd time for you what I said You're misrepresenting it a 2nd time Probably lazily to fit in with this mornings group crib notes I couldn't care less tbh Blanch parsed the tweet reasonably imho You're feeding that narrative now
FrancieBrady wrote: » Blanch channeled Charlie...he didn't 'parse' anything, there's a difference. As disgusting a use of victims as his previous use of 'selected' victims to score political points. Good to know you are ok with a Minister for Justice reading Garda files and telling lies on the tweet machine. Once again, rather than call out a blatant political opportunist the FG guys and gals go into a protective huddle.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Good to know you are ok with a Minister for Justice reading Garda files and telling lies on the tweet machine. .
blanch152 wrote: » The problem for Sinn Fein is that there are a lot of people out there - Arlene Foster being another one - who have personal and family experience of being targetted by terrorists who were supported by Sinn Fein.
On this issue, it would be better if posters kept their quiet rather than being outraged once again by something on Twitter. After all, you wouldn't want to create the impression (which they clearly are doing) that black lives only matter if they are killed by someone other than the IRA.
blanch152 wrote: » Keep up the narrative that black lives only matter when they are killed by someone other than the IRA, it is doing well at exposing the reality of Sinn Fein thinking. Flanagan has provoked a response that is sadly predictable and symptomatic of the narrow hateful mindset of committed repubicanism.
McMurphy wrote: » It's all very one sided with you blanch, as per. What about all the people killed by the RUC, and at the hands of loyalists where collusion with the RUC has been proven? This can be applied to your own lobsided posting history also chief.
