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Madeleine McCann

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No, not some conspiracy theory, apparently german expose show have new evidence. A prisoner in Germany is their new prime suspect. They must have evidence, not sure the details have been disclosed yet. They are mentioning a car and a van.

Police are looking for information on the following telephone number that the German suspect rang around the time of the disappearance - +351 916 510 683

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rodDaly69

Is there any point in arguing in the conspiracy theory stuff? Unless this guy or the McCann's admit to doing it and give up the whole story, we will never know.

All we do know based on McCann testimony is that they are neglectful, selfish scum who should have taken better care of their children.

Westminster made sure they weren't nailed for that. How Gerry is still practicing, I will never know. I wouldn't trust him to diagnose the number of toes I had for fear he'd f*ck off halfway for a Starbucks.

Shefwedfan

limnam wrote: »

I'd say all the false information provided at the start didn't help

You do realise they need to show up to get the false information you claim delayed them

political analyst

limnam wrote: »

I'd say all the false information provided at the start didn't help

By who?

limnam

political analyst wrote: »

Why was the Portuguese police response after Madeleine was reported missing so bad? Do they have a culture of indifference towards crimes committed against tourists in Portugal?

I'd say all the false information provided at the start didn't help

antgal23

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I would not leave my passport or or other valuables in an unlocked holiday apartment, and our family always took their kids in their buggies to a cafe/restaurant at night. It is normal in Spain and Portugal to see kids sleeping in their buggies at all hours in such places. It is the norm.

I wonder if their valuables were stolen along with the child? We haven’t heard about that.

Good point, does anyone know if anything bar the wee girl was taken?

sxt

dark crystal wrote: »

Hey, it's fun to believe in fake moon landings, the deep state, 911 inside jobs etc. than the actual truth.

Actual facts are no fun...

The fact is there was evidence of a dead body in apartment 5a, who's body was it? There was no record of anyone ever dying in that apartment nor any of the other on the complex

tigger123

political analyst wrote: »

Why was the Portuguese police response after Madeleine was reported missing so bad? Do they have a culture of indifference towards crimes committed against tourists in Portugal?

Lack of experience.

Its been mentioned before, but the Netflix documentary is excellent. Very thorough.

Shefwedfan

political analyst wrote: »

Why was the Portuguese police response after Madeleine was reported missing so bad? Do they have a culture of indifference towards crimes committed against tourists in Portugal?

Because they are incompetent....

Spanish Eyes

I would not leave my passport or or other valuables in an unlocked holiday apartment, and our family always took their kids in their buggies to a cafe/restaurant at night. It is normal in Spain and Portugal to see kids sleeping in their buggies at all hours in such places. It is the norm.

I wonder if their valuables were stolen along with the child? We haven’t heard about that.

political analyst

Why was the Portuguese police response after Madeleine was reported missing so bad? Do they have a culture of indifference towards crimes committed against tourists in Portugal?

dark crystal

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Plane fuel doesn’t bend steel bars rubbish

Fake news!

Shefwedfan

dark crystal wrote: »

Hey, it's fun to believe in fake moon landings, the deep state, 911 inside jobs etc. than the actual truth.

Actual facts are no fun...

Plane fuel doesn’t bend steel bars rubbish

dark crystal

Shefwedfan wrote: »

No elf it based on anything other than crackpots on the internet making stuff up

Hey, it's fun to believe in fake moon landings, the deep state, 911 inside jobs etc. than the actual truth.

Actual facts are no fun...

TheW1zard

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How long did it take you to make that up?

They clearly know the case, that all rings true.
Do you?

Shefwedfan

dark crystal wrote: »

I'd say there's years of avid internet reading in that conclusion.

No elf it based on anything other than crackpots on the internet making stuff up

Banana Republic.

TheW1zard wrote: »

Theres evidence no proof though.
Evidence for and against. In a trial the jury look at evidence, evidence could be something as simple as clothing, time of someone leaving the table. Etc.
Jury decides if the evidence proves anything.

Thats basic stuff there

So yeah theres evidence, theres also evidence about other suspects by the way.

It would be good to know who else is suspected at the moment so I wonder how many serious serious suspects they’ve wrote out of questioning but it begs the question what evidence are they looking for as The British Police are treating it as a missing case but The Germans as a murder case. I would like to know what The Germans have to be so vocal about her being dead.

dark crystal

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How long did it take you to make that up?

I'd say there's years of avid internet reading in that conclusion.

dark crystal

sxt wrote: »

Because based on all the evidence, Everything else is fantastical.

sxt wrote: »

Every prime minster of the UK has signed off millions of pounds per year to continue the investigation. Clarence Mitchell was a top level Government official and went to Team mccann within weeks. It is a deeply political. They have only had one narrow line of investigation. I think this is the end of the line for the investigation, and they'd like some return for their investment

Fantastical indeed.

Shefwedfan

sxt wrote: »

Because based on all the evidence, the lies, deceptions, deceits of the mcanns and their friends , the fact that there was evidence of a dead body in appartment 5a,the fact that the mcanns tryed to stage a break in that didn't happen. This is the most concrete theory there is. Everything else is fantastical.

How long did it take you to make that up?

TheW1zard

dark crystal wrote: »

There is no evidence, none.

Fantastical? What's fantastical is the belief that two parents either accidentally or purposely killed their child, and within an incredibly short space of time, immediately decided the best course of action was to mastermind a genius criminal plan instead of calling an ambulance, disposed of the body without any transport, amidst a busy holiday resort, in a country they were strangers in, without being seen by anyone, went to dinner with their friends as arranged (who, of course, were all on it), acted perfectly normally, without loss of appetite or any sign of distress, fake the disappearance, call the police knowing they would never find the body because it had been hidden somewhere so secret, it still hasn't been found to this day and keep up the pretence and the publicity for 13 years instead of relaxing and enjoying the fact they've gotten away with the perfect crime.

Yep, sounds pretty plausible to me!

:rolleyes:

Theres evidence no proof though.
Evidence for and against. In a trial the jury look at evidence, evidence could be something as simple as clothing, time of someone leaving the table. Etc.
Jury decides if the evidence proves anything.

Thats basic stuff there

So yeah theres evidence, theres also evidence about other suspects by the way.

sxt

limnam wrote: »

This was a bizzare thing to say considering it was over a year ago

Mr Amaral, who has made outlandish claims including that MI5 was involved in a cover-up, said last year that a German paedophile currently in jail was “probably going to be the scapegoat” in the case.

Every prime minster of the UK has signed off millions of pounds per year to continue the investigation. Clarence Mitchell was a top level Government official and went to Team mccann within weeks. It is a deeply political. They have only had one narrow line of investigation. I think this is the end of the line for the investigation, and they'd like some return for their investment

Banana Republic.

dark crystal wrote: »

German prosecuter says he 'has evidence' that Madeline is dead, but no body. This is so cryptic..

https://www.eagleradio.co.uk/news/world-news/3119354/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead/

A German prosecutor has said he has evidence Madeleine McCann is dead as he appealed to British tourists to help identify the suspect's former homes.

Hans Christian Wolters said police need more information about where the new suspect, named only as Christian B, has lived so police can search for Madeleine's body.

He admitted he does not have enough "hard evidence" for the suspect to go on trial.

Mr Wolters believes there are other British victims of sex attacks and has urged them to contact police.

He told Sky News: "After all the information we got, the girl is dead. We have no information that she is alive.

"All indications we have got that I can't tell you points in the direction that Madeleine is dead.

"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that Madeleine is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."

Mr Wolters continued: "The hard evidence we don't have, we don't have the crucial evidence of Madeleine McCann's body.

"We expect that she is dead, but we don't have enough evidence that we can get a warrant for our suspect in Germany for the murder of Madeleine McCann.

"At the moment we also don't have enough proof for a trial at court, but we have some evidence that the suspect has done the deed.

Like, what could he be talking about here?

They need to find out where he lived as they haven’t searched all the places he resided in plus it’s doubly hard as he lived as a hobo type lifestyle over 18 months so he’s supposed to have stayed in a few houses in that time, those houses are key to knowing where to search I’m sure it’sa places he had no record of being and most likely derelict so no evidence of him being there has made it possible to start a search.

Overall it sounds like only ppl really close to him know of his whereabouts or can any of the public remember seeing him in houses close to their neighborhood is the only chance we have of finding her. Therefore the police can link him and nail him for it. Anyone that knows him ie: family, need to hang him out to dry.

TheW1zard

sxt wrote: »

Because based on all the evidence, the lies, deceptions, deceits of the mcanns and their friends , the fact that there was evidence of a dead body in appartment 5a,the fact that the mcanns tryed to stage a break in that didn't happen. This is the most concrete theory there is. Everything else is fantastical.

Agreed. Its not personal its a global case at this stage and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

dark crystal

sxt wrote: »

Because based on all the evidence, the lies, deceptions, deceits of the mcanns and their friends , the fact that there was evidence of a dead body in appartment 5a,the fact that the mcanns tryed to stage a break in that didn't happen. This is the most concrete theory there is. Everything else is fantastical.

There is no evidence, none.

Fantastical? What's fantastical is the belief that two parents either accidentally or purposely killed their child, and within an incredibly short space of time, immediately decided the best course of action was to mastermind a genius criminal plan instead of calling an ambulance, disposed of the body without any transport, amidst a busy holiday resort, in a country they were strangers in, without being seen by anyone, went to dinner with their friends as arranged (who, of course, were all on it), acted perfectly normally, without loss of appetite or any sign of distress, fake the disappearance, call the police knowing they would never find the body because it had been hidden somewhere so secret, it still hasn't been found to this day and keep up the pretence and the publicity for 13 years instead of relaxing and enjoying the fact they've gotten away with the perfect crime.

Yep, sounds pretty plausible to me!

:rolleyes:

limnam

This was a bizzare thing to say considering it was over a year ago

Mr Amaral, who has made outlandish claims including that MI5 was involved in a cover-up, said last year that a German paedophile currently in jail was “probably going to be the scapegoat” in the case.

sxt

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

I think a lot of people WANT it to be that the McCanns were somehow involved in Madeleine's disappearance/death(?).

Why?

Because based on all the evidence, the lies, deceptions, deceits of the mcanns and their friends , the fact that there was evidence of a dead body in appartment 5a,the fact that the mcanns tryed to stage a break in that didn't happen. This is the most concrete theory there is. Everything else is fantastical.

[Deleted User]

Here it discusses how his ex girlfriend and her ex husband don’t want to cooperate with police for their own reasons, yet to leave the most horrific criminal Scott free time do further Midwest’s doesn’t speak too well of them. I guess maybe they aren’t people to function very well in life, or have major issues with drugs etc themselves. I can’t imagine anyone being “attracted” into a relationship with somebody who seemed to behave like a monster and scumbag at every opportunity. I don’t think he was the “charming” type who had a dark side, it seems he was an unkempt filthy unpleasant human being throughout, with maybe his ready offering of drugs as the only enticement you his company. That’s the way he comes across to me anyway.

limnam

SusieBlue wrote: »

You don’t half post a load of total hyperbole.

Which part was not true ?

[Deleted User]

screamer wrote: »

The update from the German prosecutor is really bad. It’s nearly worse to know that, as now there’s little hope left that she alive ( what little there was), they don’t know enough to prosecute and will likely never locate the body to bring and end to all of it. And God only knows the bits we all shudder to think about..... awful just awful

It will be so important for the family to have as many answers as possible, especially for Madeleine’s siblings when they become adults and more clues as to the how, where it even why may fall into place with future scientific discoveries. To at least know who was almost certainly responsible is a starting point and maybe the family can even begin to grieve.

screamer

The update from the German prosecutor is really bad. It’s nearly worse to know that, as now there’s little hope left that she alive ( what little there was), they don’t know enough to prosecute and will likely never locate the body to bring and end to all of it. And God only knows the bits we all shudder to think about..... awful just awful