[Deleted User] wrote: » Personally il go,with high profile figures who come out in favour of it and work from there as outrage culture usually makes those who agree/disagree identifible Loyalists walked away from too many killings of innocents and collusion for me to funnel money to those who join forces with them (each to their own like,just my choices)
BonnieSituation wrote: » You'd say? Have you talked to a majority of Nationalists? Seems odd that you have established this "fact" and yet I have never seen anyone call for an independent NI nor have I seen poll figures showing it is wanted by anyone. ---The GFA s a roadmap to a UI. For another roadmap, to say your ill-thought out independent NI, would require an All Island consensus and a buy in from everybody, that is plainly not there, to replace what we have. Who is going to do that? It's cracked.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Just my personal choices anyway Fcuk the uda,and all those who side with them, they killed dozens at tail end of the troubles with help of security forces and got no push back for it,a utd ireland is ultimate 2 fingers to them Only for likes of martin doherty,they would likely killed dozens that night in dublin,and you still have people here side with them
mehico wrote: » No of course I don't want to disregard the Unionist community but to answer the first part of your question, yes unionist voting trends have changed.
downcow wrote: » Changes in voting trends are being misrepresented. Every country ebbs and flows in support for one party or other. There has been a rise in vote for the Alliance party - I don't see any other dramatic changes over the last decade. A rise in the Alliance party vote should concern those who want to unite this landmass into one country. A recent poll of Alliance party voters showed that they were in favour of remaining in the UK by 3 to 1. Polls, to the dismay of Republicans, continue to remain fairly static with regard to the population having any interest uniting the island. It seems there are about 25% who would like to unite. That is a very steep hill to climb
It showed 46.8% in Northern Ireland would vote to remain in the UK, while 45.4% would vote for a united Ireland. 7.8% said they would unsure how they would vote. LucidTalk ran the same poll in the Republic of Ireland, where 73.1% of respondents said they would vote for Northern Ireland to be part of a united Ireland, while 10.2% said they would vote in favour of Northern Ireland remaining in the UK. 16.7% of respondents said they didn't know what way to vote.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No I won't refrain from using it. It is such a well known term it even has it's own Wickie page:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitionism#:~:text=In%20Ireland%2C%20partitionism%20(Irish%3A,people%20who%20live%20within%20them.
Deleted User wrote: » Just my personal choices anyway Fcuk the uda,and all those who side with them, they killed dozens at tail end of the troubles with help of security forces and got no push back for it,a utd ireland is ultimate 2 fingers to them Only for likes of martin doherty,they would likely killed dozens that night in dublin,and you still have people here side with them
[Deleted User] wrote: » Your free to.hold such a view,not morally equals imo but whatever Any indo finicial figures i seen (imf put it at 4.6 f To 5.4 billion deficit for NI),free state spending in 2017 went from 77 to 81 billion without entering deficit i think its achievbele anyway And it wipes the smirk of sammy wilson and his bigot buddies faces aswell,and you cant put a price on that
Shefwedfan wrote: » So its used by SF. Nobody else, SF and SF supporters
Shefwedfan wrote: » I am liking the way people are totally disregarding the unionist. Is that not what the English did to the Catholics and started the whole troubles? How stupid would it be to disregard a whole community and then start off another load of bombing? seems like a few people on here would just like to forget about that issue and just ignore it. Sensible people will ask that question. Plus all your polls, did any of them ask about having a united Ireland but your tax would increase by an extra 5-10% oper year to pay for Norther Ireland? if not then they are irrelevant results in Rep of Ireland. Few people burying head in sand around her.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I think R. F. Foster and Austin Currie or the editors of the Derry Journal would take grave exception to being called Shinners Shef. Did you also 'not know' they weren't in SF? It's also used in other parts of the world too Shef. Here is it's definition in Canada.https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/partitionist
FrancieBrady wrote: » Who is 'disregarding' the Unionist?
Shefwedfan wrote: » Anything apart from wiki with a reference? I have googled and mostly I see it used by crack pot SF fans on facebook. Most of them who can't even spell it. I think the best was a picture of Brexit on RTE and they wanted to launch a campaign against RTE because they had a union jack on Northern Ireland :P:P:P:P:P:P If you want to stick me in the group called "partitionist" and you are in the group with those crackpots. Off you go. I know which one I am better off in
FrancieBrady wrote: » Funny that. You live in a world where you never heard the term and your google mostly takes you to Facebook when you google 'partitionist'. Here's where mine takes me.https://www.google.com/search?q=Partitionist&ei=13XbXpmVLZup1fAPp_OOmAc&start=0&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwjZ3IyXg-3pAhWbVBUIHae5A3M4HhDy0wN6BAgLECw&biw=1097&bih=526 You wouldn't have been bluffing about both things Shef by any chance?
Shefwedfan wrote: » Best to read the comments from your fellow SF members!
Deleted User wrote: » Killed mates of me dads and relatives of mine Now your free to politically side with them in opposing a utd ireland all you want and hide behind emojis....but your their equal when you side with em imo
FrancieBrady wrote: » Come on Shef...you made the claim...back it up? There has been some discussion on this on this thread and Unionists have nothing to fear in maintaining their identity as British or in any other areas. I know I am open to discussions about flags, anthems, language, The CW etc etc.
Shefwedfan wrote: » As I said originally who uses the word, best you can come up with is Wiki and a reference to SF. So find someone, anyojne who uses it apart from SF and SF supporters? If it is such a popular word then politicians all over the World would use it. You can try change the subject but that was the original post, you have yet to answer. So please. Answer and if not then refrain from using the word.
[Deleted User] wrote: » You asked why people have issue with uda and now hid behind bullsh1t as you dislike answer...childish tbh This wasnt what i said though,your imagination is at you i fear Indeed,it is equal....so is this why likely why yous want to side with uda in supporting partition???
FrancieBrady wrote: » Sticking to the obvious and provable lie that only SF use it. I use it. It is a definable term, and a legitimate word. Your fear of owning your own stance, is your own fear. It won't 'refrain' me or anyone else using the word.
Shefwedfan wrote: » How many posts now, let’s go back to the original question “Who uses it? I have never heard it before?“ So anyone use it apart from SF? Seems a fairly simple question to me
FrancieBrady wrote: » I use it. And I will continue to use it, thank you very much, as it defines a political ideology that wants to keep this island partitioned. If you still have an issue, I think you need to report anybody using it. It is an acceptable and legitimate term catalogued in dictionaries and used by many, as shown.
jh79 wrote: » The definition always includes treating the 2 countries differently as practiced by SF last week with their amendment to the abortion bill.
jh79 wrote: » End result is irrelevant in the context of SF not having an all island approach and engaging in partitionist politics.
Shefwedfan wrote: » They had a chance of running Ireland and they ran into the shadows till the real politicians came up with a plan, then SF pop back out complaining They are more afraid than the rest of us at been given power because they know they will make a balls of it, just look at North. Three years without a government, another example of how poor Mary Lou is. Any country in the world ever go 3 years with their government shut down because of children bickering? And we are supposed to believe they know how to unite Ireland? Your having a laugh.
Deleted User wrote: » Your entitled to your opinion,as am.i...that those who support partition,politically align with the uda and il boycott and cancel as much of my business as i can with those who hold that side with them (and encourage efforts,by others to do so,within reason) Never said yous support the uda either?
Shefwedfan wrote: » Majoiritry also know the Northg is a mess and something the Rep of Ireland cannot afford. Let the brits pay for it
Shefwedfan wrote: » Are you accusing me of "act or agitates to partition"?
BonnieSituation wrote: » And in the context of "Sinn Féin don't own reunification; so is it possible for you to talk about anything related to a UI without bringing SF into it?"
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