FrancieBrady wrote: » I fancy FG have learnt very little from the election as they sent O'Donovan out to debate with Pearse Doherty this AM...if they do that much more, the Shinners will romp home in any election.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Plenty of eejits here then who think the high moral ground grandstanding about SF was any thing different. Cynical vote grabbing, power swap maintaining verbiage.
I doubt SF are in 'fear'. If FG and FF manage this, it is one of the after election scenarios that suit SF if they are not going into government.
I fancy FG have learnt very little from the election as they sent O'Donovan out to debate with Pearse Doherty this AM...if they do that much more, the Shinners will romp home in any election. What an arrogant little dictator we have in waiting.
Mortelaro wrote: » Not so good heading into a 5 year opposition where the government if it has any sense is on mission to reduce protest and increase satisfaction
Mortelaro wrote: » This is the Sinn Féin thread SF have no say in Northern Ireland now,I see... Pull the other one
christy c wrote: » The image of Pearse with his ioiotic "your pension at 65" sign and his other stupid ideas will ensure the Shinners will not be romping home.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Majority of people who dislike Sinn Fein would always say Pearse is a top TD. Assume you didnt listen to Radio 1 this morning, of course not. How in the name of God did FG think it was ok to send that character out to debate with Pearse.
christy c wrote: » Majority would say he is a top TD? Doubt it but I'd be happy to read the support to that statement.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Would the size of his vote not suggest he is a top TD?
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Doherty is a well meaning sort, but he wouldn’t be the sharpest knife in the block. Seems to mistake bluster and fake outrage for political insight. Another 4.1 billion to extend the Covid payment to the end of the year. Where’s the money going to come from?
Bowie wrote: » Same place the initial payments came from, the money for private beds, the money to support business and the money to pay TD salaries I'd imagine. It's funny how this question only really comes up when it's something for the general public.
christy c wrote: » Majority would say he is a top TD? Doubt it but I'd be happy to read the support to that statement. I listened back after seeing it here, o'donovan did ok but did revert back to the tired "the north are only getting £100 per week". Whereas Pearse was up to his usual spend spend spend antics. Maybe he's right this time but a broken clock is right twice a day.Thought it was funny when asked where he would get the money from he said something like "you never ask the government that", poor Pearse.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Then he went onto answer it. Did you listen to Leo in the Dail today, never answered 1 question, sweep sweep sweep
FrancieBrady wrote: » We heard all that before in 2011 etc etc. And you tell me I am in a bubble.
christy c wrote: » In fairness Pearse did say they would borrow it, but I found his initial response funny. Didnt listen to Leo but wouldnt be surprised if that's what he did. Think he's a bit of a spoofer but not near Pearse's level.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Leo's first reposnse to Mary Lou today was about the people in North only getting 100pound payment What a leader, He has no answers so throws the same thing out every time
blanch152 wrote: » Denis O'Brien and the rich?
christy c wrote: » In fairness Pearse did say they would borrow it. But a SF style spin on that would be something like "passing debts to our children and grandchildren to fund our current costs".
Bowie wrote: » Another reason why I'd be inclined to go with SD/SF/PBP etc.
Edgware wrote: » Leo's mistake is thinking that people in the South gives a ****e about what the loolahs in the North gets.
christy c wrote: » Were you not in the FG thread talking about SF being mentioned? Yet here you are bringing up Leo. Dont see a leader telling us that the demographics will look after themselves being much of an improvement over Leo though. Any back up to your statement that the majority of people who dislike SF saying Pearse is a top TD? Or why you incorrectly assumed I had not listened to the piece on Radio 1?
christy c wrote: » You only have to look through the nonsense proposed by these parties over the years to see why many will avoid them like the plague. Some of their ideas make spending 4 billion on a hospital seem like Einstein levels of intelligence.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » That is your response to Leo just having a go at SF with the same thing over and over again. (something the whole country is aware of now has nothing to do with SF) Well you picked parts of Pearse's response up which you found funny, but to try and make it look like he had no answer you didn't say he actually answered the question. The majority of people I know who would never vote SF, always say Pearse seems like a top TD. Do you want a list of names and numbers? 2 weeks ago it was laugh at SF, because we FG are going into GOVT, now is sweaky bum time and its oh lets have a go at everything SF (because it worked so well pre-election)
Bowie wrote: » Yet they didn't avoid them like the plague in the election. The mask is off the FF/FG parties. They are less and less being seen as the best of a bad lot or in the least sound when it comes to financials. They talk a good talk, (except Varadkar and Harris) but the national crises, gaffes, bad deals and overspends say otherwise IMO. People want a government that will look out for them first, that's not FG.
blanch152 wrote: » I think it is important from his perspective to highlight how well we treat our people compared to the government (or lack of) in the North. It must be remembered that Sinn Fein led the charge to hand responsibility for social welfare in the North back to Westminister.
christy c wrote: » I said many will avoid them like the plague, and that is what happened in the election too. Just less than previous times. Yes people are getting sick of FG, myself included. And they do want a government that will look out for them, but they also want a government that has some grounding in reality. And that is not SF at the moment anyway.
Bowie wrote: » Read up on it there: Lo and behold not as you spun it. Seems there was an impasse and SF were worried it could result in the failure of devolution. Not sure they led the charge in so much as both SF and the DUP agreed it was the best option. Getting back to your first line, how does this kind of decision in a completely different form of devolved government, in another jurisdiction, with different parties and politicians, 'overseas' as per Varadkar, play into what SF might do in office in the south? Do you think they'll ask Westminister to take over welfare in the south?https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-34853112
