Midlife wrote: » Nothing worse than someone pretending to be worldly and well read. It's Marx's communist manifesto. The communist manifesto by Karl Marx. :D Lenin was the Russian revolutionary and president. Big in the 1900s. Karl Marx was the German political philosopher. Big in the 1800s. Hilarious.
Your conflating your political history using that reference for TRump supporters or have you not studied Lenin and his communist manifesto.
RIGOLO wrote: » A strong case can easily be made that post-race riots , Republican Presidential candidates do well. History has already been written on that. During Johnsons term 63-69 we had major race riots ,albeit connected to the civil rights movement but violent protests none the less, from 63 in Birmingham AL, thru 64 NJ, 65 LA Watts riots, 66 Chicago, 67 NJ+NY to name but a few and culminating in the wide spread riots in 68 after MLKs assaination. America was in flames across over a hundred cities. 1969 Richard Nixon won in a LANDSLIDE ! When theres pandemonium on the streets, when the Democrats have come out on the side of violent rioters , I think middle of the road voters will turn to the candidate that represents law and order and not the party that represents everyone sharing the same bathroom.
Manic Moran wrote: » The first part seems unlikely. Given that they tend to be the folks already shooting (or more commonly preparing to shoot, but the former has certainly happened this week) looters or random violent actors because of their objections to the practice of looting or randomly beating up people, I can't see them objecting particularly to the government use of force if that's necessary to stop the destruction and violence either. As for the second question, I have seen nothing to indicate I'm going to get involved. Even if I do, I currently assigned to drive a desk at a headquarters element, I'm unlikely to be out on the street.
Fall_Guy wrote: » The logic here is baffling. The swing voters who went trump over hillary last time will not look at this madness and think "oh trump is the man who will bring order". They will look at it and say "trump threw petrol on a fire by making inflammatory comments and threatening force on his citizens when the rioting started at the protests". Things have only gotten worse, not better, since his threats. As uninspiring a candidate as Biden is, his response to the events of the last week, will make him look a LOT more attractive to the "vote for who i hate the least" contingent that pretty much swung the election for trump last time. The logic about most of the unrest happening in traditionally democratic states is also baffling too. It couldn't have anything to do with problematic nature of many republicans beliefs regarding race? As in, maybe not as many people in those areas saw all that much to be angry about...
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Any thoughts on the four police officers shot in st Louis? Or the dead black police officer ? Seems to be a question none will answer
ExMachina1000 wrote: » They can down tools and go home for all I care. Let the Americans destroy their own neighborhoods and local businesses. The police cant win now. Damned if they do damned I'd they don't. Any thoughts on the four police officers shot in st Louis? Or the dead black police officer ? Seems to be a question none will answer
reece289 wrote: » Government doesn't own the streets. The people of America do. The Police are their to protect and serve. They have failed to protect and people have taken to the their streets to condemn the polices actions. Now the police cannot protect and serve against looters ect. They need to take a step back. Stop attacking those they swore to protect and serve.
Hurrache wrote: » Police Chief of Houston, Texas, blood red, has told Trump keep his mouth shut if he wants to help.
RIGOLO wrote: » No sign of major rioting in RED states.
RIGOLO wrote: » The left spent the last 3 years deflecting from the economic succes story that was the US economy under the TRump administration. Most leftist commentators nearly choked having to announce the booming tock market, booming job creation, booming business growth and never was any of this success ascribed to Trumps policies. Suddenly because a global pandemic has decimated economys all over the world, the left want to be taken seriously as econmic analysts because they can point to the resultant major job losses in the US. I think not. By the way the term useful idiots is generally ascribed to socialist left wing acolytes who are controlled by their totalitarian betters. Your conflating your political history using that reference for TRump supporters or have you not studied Lenin and his communist manifesto.
Tea drinker wrote: » Was there a curfew? Did they obey police instructions? Yellow vest regularly get beaten when they don't disperse or obey the instructions. Pretty much universal that protestors get beat, it's a popular past time in EU too. May have been an ill judged move by Trump nonetheless
Leroy42 wrote: » I assume the militia, indeed all gun owners and advocates, will now mobilise against a federal government looking to use force against them and their follow citizens. Isn't that what A2 is all about? The right to bear arms is there, not to allow people to shoot deer with semi automatic weapons after all. Will you be out on the streets or is this the right type of federal force?
Carfacemandog wrote: » It actually has more to do with the fact that the poster you are quoting clearly point blank made that point up, without it having an basis in reality, in order to push a dishonest agenda. Missouri, Georgia, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, Indianapolis, Kentucky, Tennessee and Texas are all hotspot areas with Republican governors.
Fall_Guy wrote: » The logic about most of the unrest happening in traditionally democratic states is also baffling too. It couldn't have anything to do with problematic nature of many republicans beliefs regarding race? As in, maybe not as many people in those areas saw all that much to be angry about...
RIGOLO wrote: » Like the lady said in the viral clip, stop looting the shop, this will get TRump re-elected. With intensity of emotion comes true insightfulness. Moderates will always lean towards law and order in times of social turmoil and Trump represents that. The riots are gaining Trump supporters, cos moderates (the ones who sway an election) can see how much of a disaster the country would be if the people who stand up for the rioters who are throwing bricks through windows, looting and setting fire to their community, were ever to get back into power. DNC are always about two plays behind where the real events are happening. They will have a hard time explaing to the residents of states, cities and neighbourhoods they the Dems have controlled as long as anyone can remmeber that they are the ones to fix any of the issues that have exploded right in front of them. No sign of major rioting in RED states. I guess the peacful protestors/rioters know that license to carry permit holders dont take kindly to having their property destroyed.
RIGOLO wrote: » No sign of major rioting in RED states. I guess the peacful protestors/rioters know that license to carry permit holders dont take kindly to having their property destroyed.
ExMachina1000 wrote: » I don't think the groups stand separate to each other so the police can just walk in and pick them out.You really should watch some of the videos of the riot. Your last paragraph is more divisive rubbish that the world doesn't need. I am not your enemy nor am I a supporter of trump but some of you are in cloud cuckoo land if you don't think that riots on a national scale can be brought under control without force. Insanity. And before you kick off. Force does not mean shooting people dead on the streets
Foxtrol wrote: » Trump inherited the 'booming' economy, by nearly every metric the economy slowed down in Trump's first 3 years when compared to Obama's last 3. Don't let facts get in the way of talking points though
Chips Lovell wrote: » Mod Note It's that time again where we remind you all to read the forum charter. Name calling, one-liners, posts simploy consisting of tweets, memes or YouTube videos aren't permitted. If you post doesn't consist of at least one paragraph of your own contribution to this discussion, think twice before hitting "Reply"
RIGOLO wrote: » The left spent the last 3 years deflecting from the economic succes story that was the US economy under the TRump administration. Define "left". Most leftist commentators nearly choked having to announce the booming tock market, booming job creation, booming business growth and never was any of this success ascribed to Trumps policies. Define "leftist" Suddenly because a global pandemic has decimated economys all over the world, the left want to be taken seriously as econmic analysts because they can point to the resultant major job losses in the US. I think not. Define "left". By the way the term useful idiots is generally ascribed to socialist left wing acolytes who are controlled by their totalitarian betters. Your conflating your political history using that reference for TRump supporters or have you not studied Lenin and his communist manifesto. The term is used widely today. So they are useful idiots. But if you don't like that term, let's call them useful foils. Or pawns. Or puppets. Whatever you like but we can agree they are stupid people who are easily manipulated by Trump.
The left spent the last 3 years deflecting from the economic succes story that was the US economy under the TRump administration.
Most leftist commentators nearly choked having to announce the booming tock market, booming job creation, booming business growth and never was any of this success ascribed to Trumps policies.
Suddenly because a global pandemic has decimated economys all over the world, the left want to be taken seriously as econmic analysts because they can point to the resultant major job losses in the US. I think not.
By the way the term useful idiots is generally ascribed to socialist left wing acolytes who are controlled by their totalitarian betters. Your conflating your political history using that reference for TRump supporters or have you not studied Lenin and his communist manifesto.
BonnieSituation wrote: » He was not. Nixon brought China in from the cold and created the EPA. See Nixon's grace on his defeat by Kennedy. He was playing a different sport to Trump.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » You're missing the point. A lot of people care about what he says. He's set himself up as a strongman, i.e. as the poster boy for "Government". So his useful idiots will whoop and holler as "Government" batters black people off the streets re-establishes law and order. Deflection from coronavirus and the economy while demonising minorities. And so, The Donald is making whitey feel safe again.
