KaiserLu wrote: » Just so I have this straight: do we tick yes to the first question on Form A (my experience of working with the student in class..) for everyone or just LCA?
Jane98 wrote: » Quick question: If when we get students levels back and a student has decided to drop levels, which teacher has responsibility for coming up with their predicted grade? Is it the HL teacher that would have taught them all along or the OL class teacher ?
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » We getting levels today, does anyone know?
Redordeadqwwer wrote: » The students have been made aware of who the exam aide is in our school. Never heard anything about pay yet either, totally in the dark. But it will replace superintending which I normally do. The position was offered to our staff and I don't believe there were many interested at all. Usual aide not available. I would hope to have more details via a circular tomorrow but wouldn't rely on it.
LW2018 wrote: » My colleague hasn't had any contact with students as they aren't aware who the exam aide is as of yet... A large number of SAG meetings still to happen in our place. I'd think a lot of it will be done remotely unless entering the results into the portal is a part of the job description and maybe that needs to be done with the P or the DP. Don't think they've announced the rate of pay either yet. Did the usual Exam Aide not want the position or how was it offered in your place? It went to our usual exam aide and nobody questioned it. The circular might arrive tomorrow or else Principals could have received it but didn't want to send over the BHol weekend?
Redordeadqwwer wrote: » I believe I may have to contact tutors to ascertain how they arrived at their estimated grade. Asking them what assessments etc they used. This was mentioned to me but I can't see how something like that would be expected of the exam aide? Maybe I'm wrong. Students have been in touch with me with contact details of their external tutors. SAG meetings are largely over, subject dept meetings organised them themselves so that doesn't need to be done. Wonder how much I can do from home. Don't fancy being in the school too often tbh.
LW2018 wrote: » It isn't comparable to the traditional exam aide work really so I wouldn't worry about it being your first time. Form C will be a role for the exam aide - don't know how it will completely work without having contact with students (to accertain who their tutor is etc)... Form D will be at the Principal's discretion though but there will be assistance in that. Have your school started many of the Subject Alignment meetings? Maybe you'll be scheduling these
Redordeadqwwer wrote: » Yeah I seen the possible list of jobs alright. It my first time to do it to be honest, God knows what I will be doing. So schools are getting access to levels via the portal tomorrow? Id imagine the aide will be dealing with form C and D also.
LW2018 wrote: » A friend / colleague is doing it but like that she hasn't received anything. She said there was a list of work that the exam aide could be involved in (an all or some of the list) type scenario. There is to be a circular around this with rate of pay / duties etc but I'd envisage it will be open-ended and left to each school to best utilise. First job will likely being letting other teachers know if a student has changed levels from the Portal - which I assume schools will have / get access to tomorrow? Do you usually do the work of Exam Aide in the school?
doc_17 wrote: » I’d say it’ll be handy this year. No exams to aide. Some paperwork, good year to get it.
Redordeadqwwer wrote: » Anyone else doing examinations aide? I am and I have zero idea what it's going to entail. Don't think anyone knows. Got a broad list of jobs it might consist of but nothing concrete. No time frame given or paperwork signed. Don't know when I'm starting even.
mtoutlemonde wrote: » Well I suppose it is the idea of signing a contract with the DES/SEC when they are in fact minors. 'I didn't really understand what I was doing', 'I was forced into it', 'I didn't have time to fully understand what I was signing', 'Daddy's legal team didn't have enough time' etc. Excuses would come flooding in. I also remember the term 'legal enfant' from my days in business class. So I think the idea of signing away 'rights' would have been dangerous for DES in the future.
linguist wrote: » Fair point. If they're under 18, their parent/guardian could have signed the waver. In any case, to the best of my knowledge, being under 18 didn't stop them signing up to this process with all the implications it has for them.
mtoutlemonde wrote: » Would that have been possible though as not every candidate is 18 years old?
linguist wrote: » I'm sorry but I have to disagree. What evidence do you have do back that up? You are relying on blind faith and optimism there and that won't do. We are replacing nearly a century of experience with a trusted State exam, whatever its faults, with a guessing game and, as I've said, it's clear that lawyers are already licking their lips with glee. The one thing that could keep this out of the courts is the fact that all candidates can sit the LC ultimately if they wish however I can see plenty of legal cases being launched in advance of that whether any eventually make it to court or not. In retrospect, every candidate should have been made to sign a waiver saying that they accepted that disputes would be resolved by recourse to the appeals process built into this system and that ultimately they could sit the LC if they are unhappy. They should have been made to sign away their right to take legal proceedings in respect of this process as a condition for signing up to it. That, along with an indemnity, is what we should have sought.
Bobtheman wrote: » I think you might be exaggerating but so long as all teachers in a subject area' have signed off I think there will be no legal cases. In other words so long as communication kept in school it should be fine. Legal cases in education are rare enough when you consider the shoe string it's been run on.
linguist wrote: » One thing I'd like to think most of us learned early in our careers, and maybe even before, is that you can get away with saying quite a bit but be very careful with every single thing you write down. Lawyer-columnists in newspapers are absolutely queuing up to attack various aspects of this calculated grades situation. We all know it is a load of rubbish. We can't predict grades. I already said it was like playing darts blindfolded. To be honest, it's almost more like asking Mrs Doyle to guess Fr Todd Unctuous's name in Father Ted. It's all very fine our unions playing ball with this and the Minister saying we've indemnity and everything else. At the end of the day it's my name and yours that are going on these forms and it'll be you and me called before the High Court if the ambulance chasers decide to run test cases on a no win no fee basis. Are we completely and utterly bonkers? It's not only about indemnity, it's about your name in the media, your professional reputation being pilloried, the invasion of your privacy and, might I add, the possibility for an adverse finding by a judge regarding your work to result in a complaint to the Teaching Council which nobody seems to have thought of. Because you certainly don't have to be convicted of a criminal offence or come out on the wrong side of a civil case for the Teaching Council to look at a complaint against you and consider whether it falls foul of their own professional standards. I've known plenty of lawyers over my career: parents of kids, personal friends etc. They will always say: watch what you say but above all what you write.
linguist wrote: » I'm not disputing that for a second. This calculated grades nonsense is, as I've said, playing darts blindfolded. But your point isn't relevant to what I was saying which is simply that any other year a range of working documents that examiners use is destroyed. Certain advice given at marking conferences never appears written down in the published marking scheme and hugely directs examiners in what is being looked for. Ever have a student appeal something you were convinced would go up only for it to stay the same? I certainly have.
Bobtheman wrote: » The process that happens every year is quite different. Firstly you get a couple of days training. Secondly there is an exam to correct that has been done in a hall. Thirdly there is a supervising examiner. Lastly there is an appeal process on the objectively written exam .
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » What subjects? None of your business. Records? all house exams on vsware, averaged out, class ranked and based on that. Professional judgement on how each student was working. Followed Dept guidelines. What else do we have to go on?
