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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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This thread is a continuation of the megathreads for discussing the presidency of Donald Trump and any matters which relate to this.

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Update 16/5/20:

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BonnieSituation

I have the call on here.

"I blame the mayor..." Was he talking about Philly?

Then goes on to say - after one of the governors suggested that they are tentative and nervous to call up the Guard because the people don't really understand who they are and the worry is that they appear to be an occupying force when on the ground - that they "should have had an occupying force on the ground".

He's brutal.

alchemist33

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So trump is considering use of the insurrection act to send active duty soilders to US cities.

If regular cops and SWAT teams can't seem to tell the difference between rioters and protesters, I doubt these will. It'll be martial law and everyone confined to their homes. Which according to the right and their memes is called "tyranny."

Foxtrol

This will likely snowball into more protests.

Police and/or National Guard shot and killed a local restaurant owner during the protest last night. The mayor has just fired the police chief because coincidentally none of the cops involved had their body cameras on.

The more Trump gets his way and the military are involved, the more this kind of thing is likely. We've seen numerous incidents of police hitting innocent bystanders and now they are escalating things with live rounds.

https://twitter.com/KenidraRWoods_/status/1267508669652127745?s=20

gormdubhgorm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That the electoral college is a sham?

It is a mad system in fairness. But the rules of the game are known going into it. Trump played it well and won.

All those anti-Trump people in a America need to take a long hard look at themselves in my opinion. Trump got the Republican nomination it was said he was a joke. He ran against Hillary it was said he was a joke.
But 'the joke' won. Who's fault is that?
No one is laughing any more at the punchline.

I don't blame Trump, I blame the American political establishment that created the conditions to let him win.
Even Danny Healy-Rae would defeat Trump in a debate imo.

Itssoeasy

So trump is considering use of the insurrection act to send active duty soilders to US cities.

BonnieSituation

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

These type of posts always make me think.....
'and yet Trump got the top job in the USA out of over 320m other people, what does that say about the rest of them?'

That the electoral college is a sham?

gormdubhgorm

pixelburp wrote: »

"We'll activate bill Barr, and activate him very strongly"

Dear god. Can we just step back for a moment and note how the most powerful man in the world has the vocabulary and diction of a primary schooler? But we're to even contemplate the man has hidden depths? Pffh.

These type of posts always make me think.....
'and yet Trump got the top job in the USA out of over 320m other people, what does that say about the rest of them?'

BonnieSituation

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I had to turn it off!

https://youtu.be/Xhkouev0cp8

Good Jesus

eire4

pixelburp wrote: »

"We'll activate bill Barr, and activate him very strongly"

Dear god. Can we just step back for a moment and note how the most powerful man in the world has the vocabulary and diction of a primary schooler? But we're to even contemplate the man has hidden depths? Pffh.

I would say kindergarten school teacher!

Foxtrol

da_miser wrote: »

Its the Blue Dem controlled cities that are burning
Dems now coning out to defend Antifa.
Placing themselves on the side of the looters and thugs.
Trump just has to let the Dems do what they are doing and he will win in a landslide.
No red areas will vote Dem and plenty of Blue areas will now be voting Trump once the dust has settled from the riots.
I be putting a double bet on for Tump to win and win the popular vote.

I'm sure you found your meme from a very reputable source but below is the actual map of areas with protests.

https://twitter.com/MarkWeisbrot/status/1267336073006452736?s=20

No Dems are coming out to defend Antifa. Thanks to Trump's incredibly ability to shoot himself in the foot Dems can stay in the middle ground where most of the population are - supporting protesters and rejecting looters - while Trump is out proposing bringing in the military to attack civilians because they made him hide in his bunker

Tell me how

Still listening to the conference call. Was this leaked or released officially? If there is a widespread instigating organisation, they are listening to this with a pen and notepad and can hear exactly what the strategy is. Bizarre.

Just finished it. Final statement by the coordinator. 'This call is not intended for press purposes and is off the record'.

Cody montana

da_miser wrote: »

Its the Blue Dem controlled cities that are burning
Dems now coning out to defend Antifa.
Placing themselves on the side of the looters and thugs.
Trump just has to let the Dems do what they are doing and he will win in a landslide.
No red areas will vote Dem and plenty of Blue areas will now be voting Trump once the dust has settled from the riots.
I be putting a double bet on for Tump to win and win the popular vote.

It seems to be most cities at this stage and most states.
The leader of the USA is a Republican, he's supposed to be in charge.
He was hiding in a bunker at the weekend.

Everything else you posted, was nonsense.

Gunmonkey

banie01 wrote: »

More violence, weeks after advising Xi to meet with the HK protesters to strike a deal...
Is shocking.

Worse when he credited himself as the greatest dealmaker in the history of USA/humanity, that can get what he wants from anyone no matter what.

So when what is now the greatest test of his term in office arises, what does this paragon of negotiating wit and nuance doing? Hiding in a bunker, telling the police/army/whoever to start gunning down US citizens.....

da_miser

Its the Blue Dem controlled cities that are burning
Dems now coning out to defend Antifa.
Placing themselves on the side of the looters and thugs.
Trump just has to let the Dems do what they are doing and he will win in a landslide.
No red areas will vote Dem and plenty of Blue areas will now be voting Trump once the dust has settled from the riots.
I be putting a double bet on for Tump to win and win the popular vote.

banie01

pixelburp wrote: »

"We'll activate bill Barr, and activate him very strongly"

Dear god. Can we just step back for a moment and note how the most powerful man in the world has the vocabulary and diction of a primary schooler? But we're to even contemplate the man has hidden depths? Pffh.

Incoherent nonsense like this surely has to be a catalyst for someone in the cabinet to invoke the 25th!

Not that having Pence to see out the term will be much of an improvement.

The sheer audacity of trying to meet protests with more violence, weeks after advising Xi to meet with the HK protesters to strike a deal...
Is shocking.

A major issue with the US political system is writ large by Trump.
Allowing people with no political or public service experience, and deep shady pockets to buy their way to executive power.

The US prided itself as an opponent of tyranny.
It threw off monarchy to descend in 200yrs to this?

A state that saw Cincinnatus as a model and the Roman Republic as an aim.
Needs a return to the cursus honorum or some similar system that holds a higher qualification for office than natural born citizenship and age.

It's a broken, and irredeemable political system.

[Deleted User]

Tell me how wrote: »

He is advocating nationwide armed action against citizens of the US.
I'm genuinely concerned about what some groups who are 2nd amendment activists are thinking of when listening to this.

There are many 2nd amendment activists who are serious about protecting America's Bill of Rights and are allying themselves with the protestors as they could see what the police and the federal government are doing.

Tell me how

He is advocating nationwide armed action against citizens of the US.
I'm genuinely concerned about what some groups who are 2nd amendment activists are thinking of when listening to this.

[Deleted User]

Diairist wrote: »

His sole rival for the presidency is the guy who rejoiced in his Super Tuesday win by saying this is the best Thursday of my life.

Trump rang one of the Floyd family regarding the killing biut Trump wouldn't let him speak. (Was there a bitter taste in Bernie Sanders' mouth when he said 'I'm backing Joe Biden' and had to host a fund raising dinner?

God bless democracy.

America isn't a democracy, it is a corporate oligarchy with a dysfunctional 19th-century political system that desperately needs reform.

Diairist

His sole rival for the presidency is the guy who rejoiced in his Super Tuesday win by saying this is the best Thursday of my life.

Trump rang one of the Floyd family regarding the killing biut Trump wouldn't let him speak. (Was there a bitter taste in Bernie Sanders' mouth when he said 'I'm backing Joe Biden' and had to host a fund raising dinner?

God bless democracy.

Tell me how

pixelburp wrote: »

"We'll activate bill Barr, and activate him very strongly"

Dear god. Can we just step back for a moment and note how the most powerful man in the world has the vocabulary and diction of a primary schooler? But we're to even contemplate the man has hidden depths? Pffh.

Or his commentary on what has happened.

'I saw it on one of the networks'
'I was talking to a friend in Los Angeles'
'They showed it on television in slow motion'.

He sounds like a bar room expert.

Edit: 'He knows Maryland is doing well because he hasn't seen it on television' He is using TV for his intelligence briefings. It couldn't be clearer.

pixelburp

"We'll activate bill Barr, and activate him very strongly"

Dear god. Can we just step back for a moment and note how the most powerful man in the world has the vocabulary and diction of a primary schooler? But we're to even contemplate the man has hidden depths? Pffh.

derm0j073

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I had to turn it off!

https://youtu.be/Xhkouev0cp8

His take on whats happening sounds like someone with a few drinks onboard telling you what he saw on TV .

PropJoe10

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I had to turn it off!

https://youtu.be/Xhkouev0cp8

That's really disturbing. Why is he slurring his words like that? Sounds like he's totally off his head on something.

extra gravy

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I had to turn it off!

https://youtu.be/Xhkouev0cp8

Listened to the first 2 minutes and that was enough. Can't stand listening to his shít anymore.

hetuzozaho

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The White House is holding a press briefing.

Looking forward to Katie stating that DJT didn't say what he said.

I watched that. So am I right in summary, the problem America faces now is Antifa. That's what the White House are going with.

The police force is fine, covid all sorted. Antifa is americas greatest threat right now?

hetuzozaho

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Can you link to it?

I haven't gotten a chance to go looking. CBSN have spent the afternoon talking about it but not playing it.

I had to turn it off!

https://youtu.be/Xhkouev0cp8

BonnieSituation

Ben Done wrote: »

Have you listened to the audio of the call with the Governers?

This man is supposed to be a teetotaler - he was clearly drunk or heavily medicated, and also scared and lashing out at the same time.

Russia reported (not the USA) a phone call between Trump and Putin today.
Taking his orders from the boss.

It's sickening, but maybe George Floyd will be the catalyst that means we don't suffer 4 more years of this grotesque excuse for a human being.

Can you link to it?

I haven't gotten a chance to go looking. CBSN have spent the afternoon talking about it but not playing it.

Foxtrol

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I think that there is a lot of that in it. Trump plays stupid, but he is politically shrewd. You can't quell covid19 by force as it is an invisible enemy. But now he can show how he is tough on crime and disorder, while saying the state/local authorities are weak and need to get tough.

Tough on crime and disorder by hiding in a bunker while blaming everyone else and shouting at governors.

If Trump hadn't long ago burned bridges with the black community, was capable of empathy, and ego allowed him to not seek to appear tough at every moment he could have really put Biden in a tricky situation.

He has given up the easiest ground to Biden, where he can empathise with the protesters while admonishing the low number of violent ones. Trump in contrast is screaming about having troops on the streets, police being more agressive, and something very important right now - trying again to ban flag burning.

Ben Done

Have you listened to the audio of the call with the Governers?

This man is supposed to be a teetotaler - he was clearly drunk or heavily medicated, and also scared and lashing out at the same time.

Russia reported (not the USA) a phone call between Trump and Putin today.
Taking his orders from the boss.

It's sickening, but maybe George Floyd will be the catalyst that means we don't suffer 4 more years of this grotesque excuse for a human being.

BonnieSituation

The White House is holding a press briefing.

Looking forward to Katie stating that DJT didn't say what he said.