BonnieSituation wrote: » What Republicans are agitating for a change to the GFA? You obviously have proof of that assertion?
BonnieSituation wrote: » You would rather unite with France or Sweden or Vietnam than the rest of your people on your Island? Does that hold true in the event of a democratic vote whereby the residents of NI vote to reject the UK? And you say you're not bitter and beligerent and have Nationalist friends? Gas. You're too far gone to consider convincing or recruiting for a yes vote. Thankfully your cohort are diminishing.
downcow wrote: » I agree completely and I don’t hear anyone agitating for change to GFA except some republicans. I don’t here a single unionist advocating change to the voting arrangements, even jim Alistair, simply confident there will never be a majority. The time for agitating would be after the hypothetical implementation
FrancieBrady wrote: » No you don't laugh...don't be trying to cod anyone. You cannot bear a woman delivering this...is that what all the sexist cliches, (that say more about you btw) are about?
downcow wrote: » We are a resilient people. Probably no more or less resilient than the Irish. So we will do our best in whatever of you hypothetical scenarios occur. But I think I said earlier, there are about 200 other countries I would unite with before roi , and we have never been united with most of them either.
BonnieSituation wrote: » NI won't be independent. No one in NI wants this. Why would Nationalists silo themselves with people that don't agree with their aspirations? The GFA has only two possible scenarios; NI as part of the UK or a United Ireland. That's it. If people want to agitate for changes to the GFA, then that is their prerogative. In the meantime the rest of us are gonna continue down this road.
munsterlegend wrote: » Why do you keep picking analogies which have no relationship to the de facto one between the ROI and the north? We get it you won’t vote for a United Ireland but the point is that there is a majority away from hardline unionism and loyalists who could vote for it. Brexit has the potential to destroy the Uk and if SNP get a good vote in the next elections another independence referendum can’t be far away.
Madeleine Birchfield wrote: » What are you going to do when the UK/Tories throws you under the bus again regarding the border poll/United Ireland like they did with Brexit? Or if the UK falls apart with Scotland, Wales, and NI becoming independent?
downcow wrote: » You are just not getting it. I actually don’t think the roi government would purposely treat my community with contempt. That’s not the issue. No matter whether they deliver us cream buns every day, it’s not happening. It would be like saying to a Scot that if the English be nice to you would you not just let them absorb your country. Another why negotiations would serve no purpose. I don’t dislike southerners. I am just not about to surrender my country to them.
BonnieSituation wrote: » Your words indicate otherwise. If you don't feel threatened then what's your problem with an ILA? If you don't think majority want a UI why are you so angry at the idea of a border poll? Why do you constantly go on with a bunker mentality that seems to think that the ROI would treat Unionists with the disgusting contempt that Unionism treated Nationalists in NI since the sectarian statelet was imposed upon the Irish people? Your days of having a veto are over. As it should be.
downcow wrote: » Much as you would like to spin for the benifit of others. I don’t recall mentioning the flags protest. But no doubt you’ll produce the link. I think I’m going to take Francie off ignore as even he doesn’t twist misrepresent and spin quite as much as you. Lol
downcow wrote: » I don’t know where you are getting that. I support/supported the gfa. There was nothing in it that threatened me as there will never be a majority here wanting to unite the island.
BonnieSituation wrote: » It's impressive even for DC when he couldn't dig himself out of that hole. I'd be embarrassed not to know why the flag protests existed of I was a Unionist in a Nationalist town in An Dún.
BonnieSituation wrote: » So you are against the GFA then and the legitimate aspirations for a UI contained therein? You probably should have read it before you voted for it I guess.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Serious strammanning going on here That poster didnt say remotely what you implied he did and then you proceed to critise him for what your imagination said :pac:
Brendan Bendar wrote: » You are inferring a lot there big man. None of it remotely implied. I’m just keeping it real, M’kay?
downcow wrote: » Tell me where in the uk it is illegal to fly the union flag. You are at your nonsense again.
downcow wrote: » Not a chance
downcow wrote: » I would not want to be part of a state that was dependant on a unionist majority. I am more interested in a state that we all believe in. A few on here tell us about the terrible failure ni is. I’m not sure how you measure this but relatively speaking the residents seem pretty happy. The catholic population has flourished and hasn’t run off to live in this garden of Eden down south and prods and newcomers also seem fairly content. If that’s a failed state then I’m happy to live in a failed state. But yes, I think those of us who love ni will consider any option should the hypothetical dreaded all-island fantasy project ever happen.
Deleted User wrote: » Serious strammanning going on here That poster didnt say remotely what you implied he did and then you proceed to critise him for what your imagination said :pac:
BonnieSituation wrote: » And because of those you feel there's a validity to their brand of bigotry and hatred? Say the KKK stood candidates would you be so quick to say "People voted for them"? Beligerent-Bigoted-Unionism's day is done. And it has no place in a modern society.
BonnieSituation wrote: » No matter how many times you say it it is not the same. Your fear of the fada is pathetic. --- The removal of the Union flag from public buildings was to bring Northern Ireland into line WITH THE REST OF THE UK regarding its display. --- Felt that needed to be reiterated and removed from your whataboutery pile.
BonnieSituation wrote: » What? The GFA provides for the roadmap to a border poll for a UI already. Unionists have signed up to that. Why would you not want to enter negotiations on a UI in the run up to a border poll? It's too late for making demands. Your job is to show that the status quo is better than a UI. The days of demanding concessions are over.
Madeleine Birchfield wrote: » Would the Unionists allow Counites Fermanagh and Tyrone to be annexed by the RoI so that the Unionists keep their majority in Northern Ireland? After all one of the suggestion for partition in 1921 was a 4-county Ulster.
Edgware wrote: » I havent a hate of them. I just laugh when I see the make believe republican useful idiots being led up the garden path by the fishwife while ex republican Scapaticci is off enjoying himself in the sun.
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