FrancieBrady wrote: » Nonsense again. The Social Democrats have been calling out the government as uncaring on these issues long before Covid-19. Ivan did his job and she handled it very well making Fergus look like Enda under pressure...attack personally and off topic.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That was about as much as Fergus O'Dowd could muster tonight. 'You walked away from government...etc etc'. That won't wash because it is an excuse.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Its true though. They all scurried like rats from a sinking ship. Now finally things are improving they are appearing from the woodwork. Sickening selfish behaviour.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This is just nonsense. What could they have done other than give opinions and support?
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Give opinions would be a start. After all FG were only taking advice from the CMO. Why are they now getting the blame from the hurlers? Horrible people now looking to score cheap political points from the deaths of old people. They done and said **** all when it was all happening. Hope they are proud of themselves tonight.
Bishop of hope wrote: » They missed a few tricks perhaps is the only gripe I'd have. The Italian rugger lads, Cheltenham, the nursing homes. It was obvious from the start that older and more infirm people were the most vulnerable. I'd give them a 7 out of ten for their handling of it. Any party or Govt could have followed the medical advice.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Harris went on radio for the rugby saying as part of EU locking down it’s borders was very difficult and that’s why they couldn’t At that stage Covid was already in Ireland and moving because Irish people flew to Italy and brought it back. I don’t remember a spike in Dublin after the Italians? Cheltenham was strange as uk didn’t shut it down what would Ireland do? Stop Irish people travelling? Refund flight/hotels etc....people should of had the cop on not to travel but they didn’t give a s**t. Same people probably complaining about lock down
Bishop of hope wrote: » That's a fair enough comment. Overall they handled it well, it was and is very difficult to keep people on board with everything anyway and people breached the rules too and will continue to do so. As it evolved I think the Govt evolved well with it and I'm speaking like everyone else now in hindsight, so easy to pick up the few gripes I have.
Shefwedfan wrote: » The problem I seen was Irish people, you had clowns after the lockdown who flew to xyz and then complaining because they couldn’t get back to Ireland. This was after all the warnings not to travel You had people on the Ryanair website giving each other advice on how to get back from Europe as Ryanair had shut down. Majority involved travelling across a number of countries and getting the ferry. What was the government supposed to do? Not let them back in? You will have the same people complaining about the disease but they are the ones who helped spread it. Really really stupid things going on. Then you have political party and supporters gloating in the death of people because they can throw mud at other parties. Disgraceful carry on. If any of these people came out with idea at the start then great, no they sat back and waited. Usually useless people we have around.
smurgen wrote: » Harris so is a liar because a number of EU countries sealed their borders shut. Have a look if you don't believe me.https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-european-borders-closed-in-response-to-covid-19-2020-4
Shefwedfan wrote: » What was the government supposed to do?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Govern? They messed up and it probably cost lies. People will accept that mistakes happen..I think Irish people are reasonable, the Rugby match and Cheltenham can be put down to usual government incompetence and slowly forgotten. But already we see FG heading down a familiar arrogant rabbithole over Nursing Homes. The knives are out here among the FG apologists already for anyone but guess who. Real people, loved as much as anyone else died there...did they die prematurely and needlessly? I think we will find out, they won't be forgotten as ordinary normal incompetence and dithering.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Of course they were real people loved as much as anyone else. However your faux outrage and crocodile tears doesn’t mask the fact that instead of pulling together on the most serious issue the country has to deal with in a century you try to turn the event into a political football. Now I know you will be on here as you have been for the last month pounding the pages with your rhetoric but people who understand the complexity of this event, the multi faceted problems it threw up, the huge logistical problems in acquiring supplies will appreciate the terrific effort made by all frontline personnel to keep things going on as many fronts as possible. Ordinary decent people know that.sure, everything wasn’t perfect but displaying bile and disappointment because such a decent job was done kind of displays a certain mindset that I wouldn’t be too eager to mix with.
McMurphy wrote: » Pull together you say? Like a national government of unity perhaps? Ahem.Varadkar open to unity government without SF
JohnnyFlash wrote: » The issue, Murph, is that FF, FG,Labour, Greens etc don't like SF because lads like Ted Howell are still pulling the strings in the background. Can't be having that in fairness.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Plenty of FF members want to talk to Sinn Fein, Martin was arguing about it in media as the FF ****show continues. You thinnk FF, FG, Labout, Greens all like eachother. What government is formed, wont last a year
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Disregard for people's lives' that will be a very current theme for the next while.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » They think this is all going to go away, like the cervical scandal etc... The people have woke up to it all
Mortelaro wrote: » Who's they?
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Fine Gael and their supporters. This thread is about FG, why would i be talking about anyone else?
