FrancieBrady wrote: » The day after the Health Minister used the 'I didn't see the letter' excuse???? And after 4 years of FG taking responsibility for nothing...constantly blaming FF for the country's finances, until even interviewers were telling them to shut up about it. The housing crisis, the HSE, all somebody else's fault. Up the yard as they'd say around here. Opposition is not for glowing praise or platitudes, it is to fault find and to call to account. The fear is evident in you.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Exactly, and although Francie seems to think the electorate can only “sit and watch” he forgets they can form an opinion as to how ML and her ragtaggle bunch of followers would have handled the issue. Very disingenuous advising a respected poster not to come on to a thread, without Mod accreditation. Especially after showing a bit of ‘form’ recently.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » But we know what the response will be from SF when a government is formed. It was someine else's fault.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Oh... we need to drill this one down.... Now..despite having a pandemic foisted on them, after specifically declaring a desire to go into opposition, they, instead of saying , not our biness guv, let those who think they ‘won’ the election form a govt and handle it, they use the pandemic as an ‘opportunity’.!!!! That’s quite a leap, quite a preposterous leap.
blanch152 wrote: » There was no opportunity for Fine Gael other than the complete failure of Mary-Lou McDonald to put together any sort of a government. Mary-Lou's abject and abysmal efforts handed the ball to Fine Gael, yet Francie wants to blame them for taking advantage of her awful leadership.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Richard Boyd waiting fro Sinn Fein to show up to meeting
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Hmmmm That’s not what you said in the initial post, Francie. You then tried to cover your tracks with the bounce business. Need to up your game a bit .
blanch152 wrote: » Not the biggest leap he's taken, though. A few weeks ago he built a wall with his mates in the middle of the lockdown while posting every 10 minutes on boards. Leaping all over the place, he was.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Any word on the talks they said they were going into after Richard Boyd Barrett check mated them 2 weeks ago?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Failure to form a government is an entirely different thing. Don't start the silly buggers again. FG accepted the loss and were heading to opposition in a huff. Then they saw an opportunity to capitalise and they did. The electorate have no say in that, they have to sit back and watch.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » What opportunity was that Francie??? Do explain.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The bounce from handling the pandemic well. It surprised everyone even if they have made characteristic mistakes.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Brendan, don't come on a politics thread if you don't know what you are talking about. They were duty and legally bound to deal with governance until a new government was formed. This is basic stuff. P.S. Read what was said, they used the 'bounce' from handling the pandemic and saw an opportunity to get back in power.
Bowie wrote: » When folk start using the US to justify a view we're in trouble.
Shefwedfan wrote: » I think you missed the point
Quotations wrote: » A simple no would suffice. You don't understand maths. More people voted for change in the last election than those that voted status quo. Its a fact. Are you going to hold voters responsible for FF and FG and the greens braking their promise to the voter post election? Lying to the electorate. Is this your dodgy logic? Most first preference votes went to SF. What their final vote share was I don;t know because most of them qualified first count across the country. FF and FG got many, many vote transfers on the 5th, 6th, 10th recount ect so maybe this is clouding the issue. Some didn't even reach the quota; Simon Harris for example. Could not even get 11,000 votes out of his constituency. Absurd really that Leo has rewarded such a failure with continuity. Particularly when he was the one who brought down the government.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The government is to be held to the standards in Boards.ie rugby forum? Good man Shef. For a FFer you are a great FGer, it should all go swimmingly.
Shefwedfan wrote: » Really? Check the rugby forum here and see the comments when the games got cancelled, people saying it was all over the top, It wouldn’t hit Ireland, waste of time Even I travelled to Austria in early part of year and people laughing when a few people had masks in airports and walking around. Most people thought this would never come or wasn’t a reality. Just look at the US
dundalkfc10 wrote: » They could turn around and say they would bring in Sinn Féin if these talks don't go well or The Greens fall apart before it finishes. Everyone knows he only wants 1 thing Martin was doing plenty of giving out about FG choices latley in the Dáil today, it's not all going to plan it seems
Quotations wrote: » Well? Smokes and mirrors. 8th worst per million in the world. One higher than France, two below Italy I think the WHO chart states. Here's a question; Remove all the unnecessary care home deaths from the official figures and where would (should*) Ireland be? (*If there was a competent government and administration instead of the legacy of FFG croyism?) Simon and Leo threw the most vulnerable under the bus on day one. Everyone and their dog knew what was coming weeks in advance and they let it happen. Shame.
Shefwedfan wrote: » 24% voted for Sinn Fein and “change”. That means 76% didn’t. They voted for FF and FG yes, but also Greens, Social Dem, Independent and God love us all but some voted for Gemma Does that make sense? As per other comments, the party at the end with the most seats is the winner. That’s not Sinn Fein Even if FF turned around tomorrow and said they would bring in Sein Fein, Mary Lou would not be Taoiseach
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