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Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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This thread is a continuation of the megathreads for discussing the presidency of Donald Trump and any matters which relate to this.

Please keep discussion civil and constructive and bear the charter in mind before posting.

Update 16/5/20:

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pixelburp

BonnieSituation wrote: »

What have they being saying about Twitter and their compatriots?

Presumably it's nodding towards the lingering narrative that the Big Tech companies all have a Liberal Bias. Fox, the GOP and anyone under the "conservative" umbrella like to conflate various demographic trends, or misread search results, as proof of bias. Or the Google dev James Damore, a self-titled conservative who claimed he was fired for having conservative beliefs.

edit: found it; looks like he dropped the case earlier this month with little fanfare: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-google-engineer-became-wing-012055446.html

BonnieSituation

hetuzozaho wrote: »

He's really stirring up this Twitter stuff. The Trump supporters must really hate Twitter? If he's kind of making it a thing to focus on. I wonder will he get the POTUS account moved over to gab

I hope he does this "big action" soon.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265649545410744321

What have they being saying about Twitter and their compatriots?

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He's still trying to make the completely un-fetchworthy "Obamagate" a thing:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265608389905784834

hetuzozaho

He's really stirring up this Twitter stuff. The Trump supporters must really hate Twitter? If he's kind of making it a thing to focus on. I wonder will he get the POTUS account moved over to gab

I hope he does this "big action" soon.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1265649545410744321

Blueshoe

Quin_Dub wrote: »

And as the 1st response to that tweet points out - Where was that reaction when the white people rocked up to various Government buildings to protest the lockdown , with Guns or effigies of a Governor lynched on a tree?

They had guns. Tear gas and beat downs wouldn't be wise

Quin_Dub

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CarlosGphoto/status/1265455823700070401?s=19

Tear gas and rubber bullets used against peaceful protesters. No it's not China, it's Minneapolis.

And as the 1st response to that tweet points out - Where was that reaction when the white people rocked up to various Government buildings to protest the lockdown , with Guns or effigies of a Governor lynched on a tree?

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/CarlosGphoto/status/1265455823700070401?s=19

Tear gas and rubber bullets used against peaceful protesters. No it's not China, it's Minneapolis.

BonnieSituation

duploelabs wrote: »

Oi! In my defence, practically to same posts are appearing on AH except sans irony or sarcasm

In your defence, I've found myself in there by accident lately as well. It's not a nice place.

Billy Mays

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if Trump sides with the cops in the murder of George Floyd....

I wouldn't think so given his previous position on people taking a knee

But they were black athletes and not white cops so you never know

pixelburp

It was Memorial Day on Monday, so obviously there were a lot of pleas for folks to be sensible and stay at home. Advice ignored apparently in the Ozarks, where a number of viral videos have surfaced showing CoVid Pool Parties in full swing. Now, obviously you can't put one incident at the feet of Trump - personal responsibility is always an important aspect regardless - but in terms of setting a mood or narrative that downplays the severity of the overall crisis, it's hard not to draw a cognitive link between this kind of brazen ignorance and the example set by national leadership.

(And obviously with viral video, some healthy scepticism as to the source applies here but there are a number of varying videos knocking about all pertaining to the same time & place).

https://twitter.com/scottpasmoretv/status/1264394565861232640

https://twitter.com/maxbaker_15/status/1264386140720771076

Timberrrrrrrr

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see if Trump sides with the cops in the murder of George Floyd....

Just seen the video, Hopefully that cop goes to prison for murder :mad:

EltonJohn69

It will be interesting to see if Trump sides with the cops in the murder of George Floyd....

duploelabs

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Twitter need to hold Joe Biden's feed to the same standard.

Can't remember where Biden said that a political opponent a Skank, can you show me where?

Neither can I remember where he suggested that a Fox news journalist murdered their intern, can you show me where?

listermint

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Twitter need to hold Joe Biden's feed to the same standard.

Go on...

Can you cite examples please

Timberrrrrrrr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Twitter need to hold Joe Biden's feed to the same standard.

Which of Bidens tweets do you feel need to be fact checked? Which tweets of Bidens do you consider lies?

Harry Palmr

Twitter need to hold Joe Biden's feed to the same standard.

PropJoe10

I understand that Twitter is in a difficult position. Taking down Trump's tweets would be counter-productive as it'd be buying into his "deep state" conspiracy nonsense and would fuel the outrage of his base.

At the same time, there CANNOT be a situation where a person (regardless of public position) is accusing another person of the most serious of crimes on social media, especially someone with 60 million followers. I'm not entirely sure what Twitter can do with this. I wouldn't like to be the one making those decisions!

Harry Palmr

The mask is now just another weapon in Trumps culture wars. Pathetic in every regard. The best that one can hope for is that enough non social distancing non mask wearing MAGA types fall ill and people trace the source of this diseased ideology back to the President of the disUnited States of America

pixelburp

Quin_Dub wrote: »

He also had a shot at a journalist at his press conference.

The journalist was wearing a mask and asked a question , Trump said he couldn't hear them and asked that they remove the mask , they replied "I'll keep the mask on thanks, I'll just speak louder".

Trump replied "Oh , You want to be Politically correct , ok"

So now in Trumps brain , wearing a mask is being "Politically correct" , not "being concerned about your health and that of others"

Jesus wept. I feel sorry for all those people in the US currently being strong-armed into returning to work, all because the Guy at the Top is leading the narrative of a potentially disastrous mutation of Individualism. Lord knows I'm paranoid enough of the dreaded "second wave" of infections but it's hard to see how the US is even remotely well placed to handle it if it occurs.

I watched the accompanying video to your post and again, is related to the Scarborough tweet. As another said, we're all ultimately biased and I'd be lying if I wasn't utterly disgusted by the manner he just doubles down; even after the reporter mentions the latter from the husband. Just gaslights the grieving man by proxy. He's a truly shameless human being. I've been rightly pinged over the extremity of language I've sometimes used but it's very hard to swallow that kind of behaviour.

Quin_Dub

Roanmore wrote: »

Was he slagging Biden about wearing a mask?

beggars_bush wrote: »

Yes

He also had a shot at a journalist at his press conference.

The journalist was wearing a mask and asked a question , Trump said he couldn't hear them and asked that they remove the mask , they replied "I'll keep the mask on thanks, I'll just speak louder".

Trump replied "Oh , You want to be Politically correct , ok"

So now in Trumps brain , wearing a mask is being "Politically correct" , not "being concerned about your health and that of others"

aloyisious

Blueshoe wrote: »

Why do people automatically take Twitter fact check as actual fact?

Is it anti Trumpism? People complaining about how twitter conduct themselves regularly yet once they go against Trump suddenly their word is golden.

Now that's not to say what Trump is saying isn't bullsh1t just interesting that twitter staff are suddenly all knowing

Personally I think the twitter advice [which is all it is] to readers to fact-check the content of the Trump tweets is very polite. They could have been very rude & just advised "don't believe the bullsh1t Trump puts up here". What's your take on their politeness towards Trump? BTW, its not twitter fact check, its advice to readers to fact-check the content of Trumps tweetings. There are online sites a'plenty to do the checking.

Timberrrrrrrr

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Sauce for the goose.

Exactly!

There are idiots on both side who will actually believe this is true so now he can get a taste of his own medicine.

Professor Moriarty

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Even better they have now started a rumour that Trump killed an intern because he got her pregnant and was going to the press

https://twitter.com/weaselx86/status/1265378076088627200?s=20

Sauce for the goose.

Timberrrrrrrr

duploelabs wrote: »

"People are accusing Jack Dorsey of murder to test if Trump is receiving preferential treatment"

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/dorsey-trump-scarborough-twitter-murder/

Even better they have now started a rumour that Trump killed an intern because he got her pregnant and was going to the press

https://twitter.com/weaselx86/status/1265378076088627200?s=20

hetuzozaho

Blueshoe wrote: »

Or have we just given up on a fair media?

You always want to discuss the media, I've told you in the past that I agree media is bias. We may need to move on from this as we agree media is bias.

You are bias / I am bias. People are bias.

But we do have access to lots of verifiable facts we can discuss.

Blueshoe

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I just listened to that Pat Kenny segment. It's up as podcast now for anyone interested.

Tillman, who was happy to be referred to as a Trump supporter, really couldn't answer any of the questions could he? He seems a bit bias in favour of Trump.

If you bring on a supporter of whoever then obviously you can expect biased answers. But shouldn't Pat Kenny who is a media man and who's show is broadcasting throughout Ireland at least pretend to be neutral ? Or have we just given up on a fair media?

beggars_bush

Roanmore wrote: »

Was he slagging Biden about wearing a mask?

Yes

hetuzozaho

Blueshoe wrote: »

Looks like I did confuse others. My bad I

I just listened to that Pat Kenny segment. It's up as podcast now for anyone interested.

Tillman, who was happy to be referred to as a Trump supporter, really couldn't answer any of the questions could he? He seems a bit bias in favour of Trump.

Blueshoe

Looks like I did confuse others. My bad.

pixelburp

duploelabs wrote: »

It could be just lip service for the outrage about the Joe Scarborough claim, if it's just a one-off or change in policy remains to be seen

Oh, it's 100% lip service: without sounding completely smart arsed, I doubt Twitter's "fact check" department is large enough that it could dedicate resources to chase up on every tweet of Trump's. There's simply too much exaggeration, lies and vulgar conspiracy theorising for a sane company to be able to deal with. It's not even comparable with other politicians' own accounts - sure, dissembling and exaggeration is par for the course on these self-inflating accounts but Trump takes it to the Nth degree.

duploelabs

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Yep it's good. And he often tweets false claims. E.g.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1262364231288197123

So this one is easily proven to be false.

Is the plan going forward that they fact check any false tweet now, or is it just now and again?

It could be just lip service for the outrage about the Joe Scarborough claim, if it's just a one-off or change in policy remains to be seen