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Do you believe in UFOs & flying saucers ?

Hamsterchops

Have you every seen an unidentified flying object?

A UFO of course is just an aerial phenomenon that you can't explain (hence unidentified), & probably not at all connected to little green men from Mars.

So what are UFOs and have you ever seen something in the sky that you couldn't explain?

In the past many people have mistaken aircraft, weather balloons, silver party balloons, and even bright planets in the night sky as UFOs, but of course under scrutiny they usually have a rational & logical explanation. More recently drones have been mistaken as UFOs.

Then in the last month we've had video clips released from the Pentagon actually showing real UFOs filmed darting around at amazing speeds & doing manouvers that would be impossible for any manned craft to do. The G forces would be so powerful as to kill any human occupants, so what was witnessed by the US Navy pilots and the aircraft carrier radar?

Are UFOs terrestrial or extraterrestrial craft?

Illusions or really there, imagination or reality?

What are UFOs !

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Hamsterchops

Ipso wrote: »

Morning of the magicians, HP Lovecraft

I was thinking Erich von Däniken and his 1968 book, Chariots of the Gods.

buried

Ipso

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Chariots of the Gods....

Morning of the magicians, HP Lovecraft

Hamsterchops

Chariots of the Gods....

ILoveYourVibes

buried wrote: »

As far as I know it the legend of them describes them as arriving on boats, Sea faring boats, as they arrived to an island from the sea. The records of these legends were first written down at a time of early Irish christianty when sea faring boats were already well known about, so that milieu at that time may have effected the recording of the event. I just find it interesting.

SPACE BOATS!

Ipso

Sorry, I see now that my last remark was a bit snarky. It's important to note the time that these stories were written down, the first few waves seem to b linked to religious terms where the word Nemed seems to be linked to the word blessed (I wonder of it's linked to the Naomh) and have a link to Scythia, the reason Scythia is chosen is that the Scythians were supposed to be descended from Japeth who was a sonof Noah (so we have direct link to the bible. Parthenon is a variation on Bartholomew, the Tuatha de Dannan and the Fomor seem to be the older gods treated as real people where you have the Tuatha as a "light" force and the Fomor as "dark".
The Fomor were also linked to the sea and sometimes referred to as Lachlann, which also used for vikings. This may be an attempt to denigrate the pagan vikings by linking them to a monstrous group of people.
the Fir Bolg seem to be the best candidates for a real group, and the final group were the Milesians who came from Spain. With them you get two links to Christianity; Mil having a link to Noah and at the time Spain was a very important center of Christianity so having Irish people descend form them gives us a bit of good breeding.

buried

Ipso wrote: »

They are a euhemerism of celtic gods. They were written as the fourth of seven waves of migration. So the other three came pre the tree dwelling stage of evolution?

As far as I know it the legend of them describes them as arriving on boats, Sea faring boats, as they arrived to an island from the sea. The records of these legends were first written down at a time of early Irish christianty when sea faring boats were already well known about, so that milieu at that time may have effected the recording of the event. I just find it interesting.

Ipso

buried wrote: »

The most interesting aspect about the Tuatha De Danann myth is that it mentions a group of people coming from a seafaring boat in the first place, at a ancient age where most historians think the human race was still living up the trees.

They are a euhemerism of celtic gods (possibly along with the Fomor). They were written as the fourth of seven waves of migration. So the other three came pre the tree dwelling stage of evolution?

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With 40,000,000,000 Earth-sized planets orbiting in the 'habitable zones' of Sun-like stars and red dwarfs in the Milky Way.
Multilpy that by 150,000,000,000 galaxies in the observable universe, for longer-haul visitors.

1 / 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

approx chance of other life in the Universe.
Chance of winning euromillions jackpot:

139,838,160 / 1

buried

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think the Tuatha De Danann came on like a cload or some air boat. Does that count?

The most interesting aspect about the Tuatha De Danann myth is that it mentions a group of people coming from a seafaring boat in the first place, at a ancient age where most historians think the human race was still living up the trees.

ILoveYourVibes

Ipso wrote: »

Ah now. Even Ancient Aliens brought that up. Let’s not pollute Irish mythology with this modern day grift.

Proceeds to pollute.

NIMAN

Peter Flynt wrote: »

I believe that life as we know it, or something similar, exists on infinite other planets.
I believe that we are far more advanced evolutionary than life on some of those planets.
I also think that more advanced civilisations exist than ours - so advanced that they have travelled to our planet.... just like we will start travelling to other planets (Mars) from the 2030s onwards.

Sort of makes sense.

This kinda sums up my beliefs too, simply by doing the maths involved.

And also, because of the maths involved, we may never get the chance to find out if we are correct or not.

Ipso

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think the Tuatha De Danann came on like a cload or some air boat. Does that count?

Ah now. Even Ancient Aliens brought that up. Let’s not pollute Irish mythology with this modern day grift.

ILoveYourVibes

I think the Tuatha De Danann came on like a cload or some air boat. Does that count?

corks finest

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Ditto.

Wonder when we'll get to Mars?

On the way but not soon

Peter Flynt

I believe that life as we know it, or something similar, exists on infinite other planets.
I believe that we are far more advanced evolutionary than life on some of those planets.
I also think that more advanced civilisations exist than ours - so advanced that they have travelled to our planet.... just like we will start travelling to other planets (Mars) from the 2030s onwards.

Sort of makes sense.

Thargor

TomSweeney wrote: »

A bird that can fly that fast ... and turn at 90 degrees without slowing down ...

What 90 degree turn? The apparent speed is a trick of parallax when you zoom in and track something, its not going anywhere near as fast as you think, watch the video where he analyses it, its going at bird speed and has the size and body temperature of a bird because its a bird.

Hamsterchops

topper75 wrote: »

That Shannon ATC brings to mind something I saw only a few weeks ago at the start of lockdown. It was a Saturday evening about 8 or half 8. A streak in the sky, quite like any old meteor, between the two stars of Gemini - high but towards the south. This was followed by another and a third in the same region of the sky but separated by a little distance, say a few degrees of sky. It was the perfect pulse (like a relaxed human heartbeat sort of frequency) and aligned nature of the three streaks that puzzled me and I began to contemplate the odds of a series of meteors behaving that way. About 10 seconds later another streak, quite like any old solitary meteor this time, streaked across and 20 degrees closer to the north at right angles to the pulse of three.

I called the Mrs. out to tell her as she is mad into space stuff. She guessed something must have been breaking up - hence the three separate aligned streaks. But the perfectly balanced frequency still has me wondering.

That sounds like Elon Musk & his Starlink . . . . .

Timings with good visibility

Thurs 28th May 2020, 4:23 am.

Starlink - for 6 mins
Look from SOUTHWEST to EAST (details)
Elevation (from horizon): start: 10°, max: 54°, end: 10°

Friday 29th May 2020, 3:25 am.

Starlink - for 4 mins
Look from SOUTHWEST to EAST (details)
Elevation (from horizon): start: 18°, max: 35°, end: 10°

Sat 30th May 2020, 3:59 am.

Starlink - for 6 mins
Look from WEST to EAST (details)
Elevation (from horizon): start: 10°, max: 66°, end: 10°

Ungodly hours for star gazing, but great for insomniacs & night workers, if you want to see some real (IFOs) then look up at these times to see Elon Musk's Starlink satellite train . . . . .

buried

fryup wrote: »

isn't Boyle Co.Roscommon a UFO hotspot ?

I know two lads who like to do a bit of fishing and they swear they saw something hovering over the lake near Boyle Forest park when they were out on a boat. I know they ain't lying about it because both of them said and still say the exact same thing about it still to this day. Both of them say they saw a "bright lit up door that hovered over the water and then it disappeared". The evening it happened they rang up another friend of ours to drive them back home because they were too shook. The guy who brought them home said they were terrified, totally not themselves. They've never gone back up there either. Makes no sense for them to make up the story as these lads wouldn't be the most imaginative bunch and they still act the same way anyone ever brings up the story and asks them about it.

Ipso

fryup wrote: »

isn't Boyle Co.Roscommon a UFO hotspot ?

No, it’s URO hot spot (unidentified rossie object).

fryup

isn't Boyle Co.Roscommon a UFO hotspot ?

topper75

That Shannon ATC brings to mind something I saw only a few weeks ago at the start of lockdown. It was a Saturday evening about 8 or half 8. A streak in the sky, quite like any old meteor, between the two stars of Gemini - high but towards the south. This was followed by another and a third in the same region of the sky but separated by a little distance, say a few degrees of sky. It was the perfect pulse (like a relaxed human heartbeat sort of frequency) and aligned nature of the three streaks that puzzled me and I began to contemplate the odds of a series of meteors behaving that way. About 10 seconds later another streak, quite like any old solitary meteor this time, streaked across and 20 degrees closer to the north at right angles to the pulse of three.

I called the Mrs. out to tell her as she is mad into space stuff. She guessed something must have been breaking up - hence the three separate aligned streaks. But the perfectly balanced frequency still has me wondering. Other than that I never saw anything meaningfully weird in the night sky in all my years. I would be very slow to believe in any kind of alien spacecraft visits.

corks finest

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Ditto.

Wonder when we'll get to Mars?

On the way but not soon

buried

This is very interesting audio from about a year ago where multiple commercial aircraft pilots reported an object/multiple objects over Irish airspace travelling at speeds of up to twice the speed of sound and they reported it to Irish ATC

TomSweeney

A bird that can fly that fast ... and turn at 90 degrees without slowing down ...

Thargor

TomSweeney wrote: »

I usually wouldn't but I just can't explain this and wonder wtf it is ...

2 bored airmen trying to lock on to a bird:

TomSweeney

I usually wouldn't but I just can't explain this and wonder wtf it is ...

Flickerfusion

There could also be a huge scale difference.

Maybe you could have advanced civilisations the size of ants or even microbes. Who says biology has to be this big?

Sure they could have been buzzing around for millennia and we didn't even notice.

Or, they could be absolutely huge and we are like ants to them.

It'd be rather boring though if the only life in the universe other than us was moss lol

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LeYouth wrote: »

I wonder do they have recessions on alien planets. I wonder are they giving out about dole payments there....and travellers. Do you think there's an alien Dublin out there? Oh god.

*Collapses.

That's true, you know. If there are Aliens, I doubt they're like we portray them - constantly working on probes and fixing space ships. I'd say it's a lot like earth. Loads of houses. Alien Nurses looking for more money. Alien doleheads sitting in their front gardens with their swimming pool tied down so it doesn't float away with a few cans.

Motor Factors queue out the door, everyone looking for Flux Capacitors as the minority aliens keep stealing them off their spaceships. :P

Hamsterchops

Pentagon finally releases footage of UFO encounters which had previously been leaked 2007 and 2017. The videos show unidentified aerial objects performing impossible manouvers at impossible speeds! Impossible to be manned by humans, as the G-forces would turn the human body to pulp.

See video here ..
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52457805