Isambard wrote: » they'll just go somewhere else.
Mc Love wrote: » They should go to a field close to the town - Closing off the N20 and forcing everyone to use L roads as a diversion is utterly insane
lawrencesummers wrote: » Under normal circumstances they should be allowed to use the town, like puck fair, Patrick’s day, pride marches etc etc that shut down towns Or areas in towns for traditional cultural events. It’s not the attendees fault that the road from Cork to Limerick is grossly over used and under developed, and they shouldn’t be punished for it, But no event of this scale should be allowed to go ahead without an organising committee, licences, traffic plans, clean up plans, policing plans, security, toilet facilities, parking facilities, medical cover etc etc.
Cookiemunster wrote: » No event of this scale should be allowed to happen on a national primary road, full stop. I don't care if it's the main street of a town or that is should have been bypassed. Until it is bypassed it should be happening somewhere else. National primary routes are for moving traffic, not for selling horses. And I think you'll find that Killorglin isn't on an important national primary route and the Particks day or pride parades don't shut the roads down for a week.
lawrencesummers wrote: » I think you will find that Killorglin may not be on an important road for you but it is on a National Primary Road the N72 which is a massive part of the tourist infrastructure in Kerry, and important to a hell of a lot of people. Have you ever been to Galway for race week? The ring of Kerry cycle? The Rose of Tralee? The national Ploughing championships? They all involve severe traffic restrictions in towns, cities and of N roads. The only difference is that they are properly organised, have plans in place for both the people in attendance and those that are effected but not involved. Im not going to go as far as to say your stance is anti traveler, but this has a tradition of almost 100 years so it has every right to be held, but the people in the area and other users of the road have a right for it to be organised properly, which it is not.
Mc Love wrote: » If it is to be used on the N20 - it should take place at the weekend and not during the week like it normally is. One Summer I experienced it and it was ridiculous to have Artic's and buses using the L/R road diversions.
lawrencesummers wrote: » I’ve had the Experience of being stuck in buttevant heading for Shannon airport and almost missing a flight because of this fair, another time I came around a bend about three miles outside the town and almost hit a badly parked car that was left over from the fair that had ended a number of days before. The fair shouldn’t be allowed to go ahead because no gathering of people and animals should be allowed without proper plans, not because It’s location is an inconvenience to people, if that was the case no festival, match, concert etc etc would take place
Isambard wrote: » it's almost impossible to stop an event that isn't formally organised. If word goes round they'll decant to Ballyhea or Twopothouse or somewhere. In my view they should be encouraged to go back to Caher Mee itself where it came from.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Anyway this isn’t the thread to discuss such.
Cork Trucker wrote: » Public consultation later this yearhttps://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Public-consultation-on-NM20-Cork-to-Limerick-Road-set-for-later-this-year-53d4b81d-2622-46a9-85e2-fb9624ce33f9-ds
Reputable Rog wrote: » Hopefully a new rail corridor will be included. Would love a direct train from Cork to Limerick and onto Galway.
serfboard wrote: » You are aware that the Limerick->Galway train takes two hours? So how long do you think a Cork->Galway train journey would take? By comparison, Citylink are already doing a Cork->Galway nonstop service (currently Fridays and Sundays only) that takes two and half hours - and that's without the motorway.
Reputable Rog wrote: » I am aware but with investment that can improved on. 2.5 hours at what time of day?
Bass Reeves wrote: » The green agenda has a fascination with rail as a public transport system. It is not compatible with the population spread in Ireland.
Bass Reeves wrote: » no it cannot unless you build new direct railway lines. The Ennis to Athenry cost over 100 million and the line was only put in place, as well as being about 15 years ago. All lands and planning were in place. To reduce the time on rail from Cork to Galway you would have to put in place all new infrastructure. At that if the M20 motorway was in place the time saving would be marginal and that is from city center to city center. The green agenda has a fascination with rail as a public transport system. It is not compatible with the population spread in Ireland.
Isambard wrote: » as far as rail investment goes, it is suburban lines that are the priority, followed by InterCity. A single track line that goes through a largely empty countryside shouldn't even be discussed. I can never understand why the Charleville to Limerick direct line gets such support. It would make more sense to me to develop all the services through Limerick Junction and improve interchangability there. A Cork to Limerick through service could be part of that.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » I've been stranded at Limerick Junction more than once. I understand why people might be anxious to avoid the...experience...
Mc Love wrote: » That's like saying I dont understand why they are building the M20 when they could easily go via the M8 and improve the interchangability there.
Mc Love wrote: » If I had a choice I'd rather take the train to Cork or Dublin if I was visiting the city center but the car is king at the moment in terms of time it takes to get there. The line is still in place in some parts - it is doable and it isnt a green agenda. PT should be king in the country and it once was.
