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Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

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Justanoseygit

DD1518 wrote: »

It's obvious that the message sent out with the absolute slaying of Kmw hasn't worked all these young lads are feral and if they keep it up deserve all they get this is an awful new breed that Ireland hasn't seen before they don't give a **** about anything or anyone and have no loyalty or respect give it two or three years and Keane's murder will seem quiet tame compared to what's coming next.

I had a wee laugh there. I can see folk in 35 years saying ‘Remember when DD1518 said on Boards.ie in 2020..........’, in the same way people currently quote Larry Dunne from the time he was sent down in 1985. (No offence meant)

double jobbing

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Here tell me this is it embarrassing to ask if there’s any yokes around these days I seem to get looks of confusion

What, young uns dont say the word yokes any more? :pac:

Ash.J.Williams

Random Account wrote: »

Think I found it , not sure if that’s Robbie. I heard that’s a different person doing the beating. Not sure though

Sounds like him

Dante7

MelvinWagstaff wrote: »

Der is no video. If ur man says e recognises d persn in d video hes spinnin d lotta yas a yarn

You need to call the Gardai and report a crime. Someone seems to have stolen some of the keys from your keyboard.

Random Account

Think I found it , not sure if that’s Robbie. I heard that’s a different person doing the beating. Not sure though

Random Account

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

There’s a video on YouTube of Robbie lawlor collecting a 2.5k debt, he’s decent at his job Anyway

You got a link mate?

John_D3

Muahahaha wrote: »

Cops can get people to talk alright and say who did it and what they saw that evening. The problem is they cant convince those same people to sit in a witness box in court and actually say it, witness intimidation would follow and then the case collapses anyway. Think back to the Robert McCartney case in Belfast, he was beaten to death in an IRA bar with over 70 people in the pub knowing who was responsible. Not one of them talked, it was pure omerta for their own safety.

These gangs know they have instilled fear into everyone in their housing estates and people are scared to go up against them because ultimately the cops are not able to protect them and it is not going to end well. Much easier to turn a blind eye, its the reality of the situation if you dont want to put you or your families life in danger.

Totally true, see this happening a lot. Recent one was when that lot shot the journo in a Derry housing estate. They say there was up to 100 on lookers that night, the police there said publicly they know who the shooter is and have gave out the tracksuit he was wearing and had been around the estate that day and weeks leading to it, they just need someone to come forward, have offered a massive award and protection but nobody will. A chance for someone from a working class estate to get out and be set up with new start.

Ciro Di Marzio

Haladmirer wrote: »

Pc controlled nothing
Only good for what he done and got done for
Kboy jboy controlled pc

Your facts wouldn’t be completely right there man. The two bro’ control the drugs at the top level..but Crosby still up pretty neck and neck with them in pecking order of the gang

TheRepentent

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Here tell me this is it embarrassing to ask if there’s any yokes around these days I seem to get looks of confusion

You're asking the wrongh people

https://www.facebook.com/makeyokesafiveragain/posts/myfa/843439162696373/

leko99

I know fellas from Drogheda and they havent seen any video nor do they know anyone who has.

Ash.J.Williams

Here tell me this is it embarrassing to ask if there’s any yokes around these days I seem to get looks of confusion

Ash.J.Williams

There’s a video on YouTube of Robbie lawlor collecting a 2.5k debt, he’s decent at his job Anyway

Random Account

MelvinWagstaff wrote: »

Der is no video. If ur man says e recognises d persn in d video hes spinnin d lotta yas a yarn

No one said anyone recognises anyone

MelvinWagstaff

Der is no video. If ur man says e recognises d persn in d video hes spinnin d lotta yas a yarn

hatrickpatrick

PressureDrop wrote: »

Think this crime hit me so hard as my twin nieces were 17 too and shared the same birthday as him. They are just kids. He would have been ****ting himself crying for his mum. He wouldn't have stood a chance against 1 let alone more... As you said he looked about 12.

In fairness though would either of your nieces dismember an innocent person's family pet just to make a point? Nobody deserves anything like the death that Mulready Woods got, but he was a sadist himself. Killing someone's pet is 100% intended to break their heart and nothing less, it's utterly sadistic and anybody who is capable of doing something as heartless as that to another person is someone I for one just can't muster any sympathy for.

To do something like that is beyond scumbaggery IMO because it's clearly intended to cause emotional heartbreak. Someone who thinks like that is someone the world is better off without. I've known people whose minds operate that way in my time and in my experience, they don't grow out of it.

The people who did it to him are obviously as bad, filming the incident and sending it to his loved ones is again clearly intended to cause emotional heartbreak. People whose minds think these things up, not ways of directly hurting someone but ways of breaking their spirit or however you want to phrase it, are truly evil, twisted psychopaths. It's similar to how I feel about the members of the Byrne/Kinahan crew who specifically targeted innocent and unconnected members of the Hutch family for the specific purpose of causing emotional grief to their relatives. It's an utterly sadistic form of psychological torture and it just saddens me that there are people like that in the world. With KMW and RL both dead, the world has two fewer people who think along the lines of "what can I do to make this person wake up every day and feel nothing but grief for their dead", and I can't stop myself from regarding that as ultimately a good thing.

Of course, under ideal circumstances, vigilantism wouldn't be necessary because people who behaved like that would be locked up instead of racking up convictions like points in a video game with total impunity. I'm not justifying murder and I'm certainly not justifying the kind of murder which subjects its victim to hours of agony beforehand.

All I'm saying is that all of these peoples' victims are sleeping easier at night knowing that nobody is going to harm those they love for no reason other than to f*ck with their heads.

It just... It's something I find it very difficult to get my head around. The thought process of "I know what it's like to lose someone I love, I'm going to kill someone this person loves so they have to feel that". And I'm including that poor woman's cat in that because anyone who's lost a family pet knows that, whether or not some might find it irrational, it's the same process of grief. He did that specifically in order to intentionally cause someone to experience the grief of losing a loved one, and I'm sorry but anyone who is even capable of dreaming up that kind of "punishment" for another person is a sick, twisted, evil piece of sh!t. No matter how young they are.

To reiterate once again: Nobody deserves to be brutally murdered. But this idea that he was "no angel" is bullsh!t, he was a lot worse than merely "no angel". He was a twisted, evil scumbag based on just that cat story alone, and I've heard both here and on other forums that that was far from the only f*cked up thing he did to hurt other humans. Making comparisons to other young people is false IMO because the vast majority of young people never even entertain these kinds of sadistic thoughts - and if they do, from my experience, they grow up to be unspeakable monsters.

Sureitlbegrand

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah I hear ya, not easy to prove. Would presume the gang broke in to the house rather than being given a key by the owner so that way his tracks were covered. Still pretty savage to allow that go on in your own house, the fact it happened there will have devalued the house by a significant sum of money. I wonder does it suggest that the operation was organised in haste, torturing and mutilating someone in a dense housing estate just a couple of kilometres from the main cop shop doesnt exactly sound like great planning. Its more the type of thing you'd expect to happen on a remote farm like the Kevin Lunney case. Maybe it done in haste or just maybe they are coked up and any sense of risk or getting caught goes out the window.

On the torso, anyone know why its said to be important? Even without it and a cause of death surely theres other charges that the mutilation of a body would fall under. I dont think the cops necessarily need to prove murder, mutilating a body would also attract a hefty prison sentence.

I always wondered is it really missing or was it actually delivered and kept from the gardai and public. Pure speculation by the way on my part but would make sense that either OM or CP were due a delivery so they would of recieved before the rest headed for Dublin

Sureitlbegrand

Muahahaha wrote: »

yeah I hear ya, not easy to prove. Would presume the gang broke in to the house rather than being given a key by the owner so that way his tracks were covered. Still pretty savage to allow that go on in your own house, the fact it happened there will have devalued the house by a significant sum of money. I wonder does it suggest that the operation was organised in haste, torturing and mutilating someone in a dense housing estate just a couple of kilometres from the main cop shop doesnt exactly sound like great planning. Its more the type of thing you'd expect to happen on a remote farm like the Kevin Lunney case. Maybe it done in haste or just maybe they are coked up and any sense of risk or getting caught goes out the window.

On the torso, anyone know why its said to be important? Even without it and a cause of death surely theres other charges that the mutilation of a body would fall under. I dont think the cops necessarily need to prove murder, mutilating a body would also attract a hefty prison sentence.

Sureitlbegrand

Baymax2020 wrote: »

Muahahaha wrote: »

jesus I had always just presumed it was a derelict house they used to murder him, never knew it was someones actual home. Any info as to why it was done there, was it owned by one of the suspects or what. Or a friend of theirs? And are they back living there. Bet the wife wasnt too happy.

Fairly sure the house belongs to GMcK. It was rented out previously

Gmcks is beside it I tink might be his shed they found the weapons in it was a few doors down from the slaughter house. I remember at the time that the owner of house was living in england I think and had to be found and notified not sure if it was rented but it's not derelict even now

Sureitlbegrand

White lighting wrote: »

Yeah they are scum MTK. The boxers must be under severe pressure when they sign for them to praise them and back them publicly. Fair enough a couple of the boxers are rehabs like Geraghty and Saunders but they cant be all that stupid and naive.

Probly the only Agency that pay the fighters 20% instead of taking a 20% cut. Lots of washing to be done lol

kotou2

It's not like ordinary murder.
Many were there a 3rd party house.
They'll all say, yes I've been to house, so my DNA could be there and i was even there that evening, but nothing kicked off when I was there.
So DNA does not prove it.
Not sure how law works to blame all. It usually cant pin blame to all.

One could read into RL and GT going to bar that evening, as a purposeful alibi, knowing what happened, whether involved or not. Trying to reduce their own blame.

Amazing that whomever filmed it, showed enough detail yet culprits still unknown. As they managed to not clearly show them, takes effort & control.
I didnt see 7mins, but bestgore website has a 2 short clips. Shocking.

The house, maybe like scissor sisters they may demolish it

Muahahaha

White lighting wrote: »

Yeah weird nobody has been charged yet with actual murder with all that has been reported in media like blood found in house and that. And if what other poster says about witnesses seeing him beem dragged into house should be fairly straight forward. Always get someone to talk. All it needs is one and more will follow bring all the scumbags down. Brazen as **** to record it if true which i believe it is. Completely stupid thing to do must have been off their rockers doing it. I suppose without the actual torso it must be delaying charges as they wont charge anyone until its Crystal clear scumbag been sent away. Possible loophole until cause of death is determined i reckon.

Cops can get people to talk alright and say who did it and what they saw that evening. The problem is they cant convince those same people to sit in a witness box in court and actually say it, witness intimidation would follow and then the case collapses anyway. Think back to the Robert McCartney case in Belfast, he was beaten to death in an IRA bar with over 70 people in the pub knowing who was responsible. Not one of them talked, it was pure omerta for their own safety.

These gangs know they have instilled fear into everyone in their housing estates and people are scared to go up against them because ultimately the cops are not able to protect them and it is not going to end well. Much easier to turn a blind eye, its the reality of the situation if you dont want to put you or your families life in danger.

Muahahaha

Jeff2 wrote: »

If the person living there was not
there for some days and proof then they have nothing to go on.

yeah I hear ya, not easy to prove. Would presume the gang broke in to the house rather than being given a key by the owner so that way his tracks were covered. Still pretty savage to allow that go on in your own house, the fact it happened there will have devalued the house by a significant sum of money. I wonder does it suggest that the operation was organised in haste, torturing and mutilating someone in a dense housing estate just a couple of kilometres from the main cop shop doesnt exactly sound like great planning. Its more the type of thing you'd expect to happen on a remote farm like the Kevin Lunney case. Maybe it done in haste or just maybe they are coked up and any sense of risk or getting caught goes out the window.

On the torso, anyone know why its said to be important? Even without it and a cause of death surely theres other charges that the mutilation of a body would fall under. I dont think the cops necessarily need to prove murder, mutilating a body would also attract a hefty prison sentence.

Tomtom3105

rodmn2377 wrote: »

True but above all cases this one needed the cops to show ...look we have them caught already.. you wont get away with something as barbaric as this..so that's what makes me personally think they have very little to do anyone..

Hard to know what the guards are up to they probably trying to get one lad to squeal on the others for a water tight conviction but no-one is talking it seems. The lads are probably gonna take their chances that the murder can't be pinned on them and try catch a lesser charge accessory or manslaught or vicious assault. G mck charge was odd tho it was a kimd of perverting the course of justice if you read the report he was charged with doing an action tjat deliberately prevented the guards from apprehending the main suspect I suppose that is getting rid of evidence would it be

White lighting

rodmn2377 wrote: »

True but above all cases this one needed the cops to show ...look we have them caught already.. you wont get away with something as barbaric as this..so that's what makes me personally think they have very little to do anyone..

I honestly think everyone involved in it will be done eventually. The Irish courts and law are a joke. For a case this high profile cops wont charge until they are certain there is no loophole or lack of evidence that might free culprit. Will take a while and people will lose faith charges will be brought but irish law is so in scumbags favor this case has to be water tight.

<mod snip> Please don't discuss cases currently in the courts.

Jeff2

Muahahaha wrote: »

Was the house it happened in lying derelict or lived in by someone?

If the person living there was not
there for some days and proof then they have nothing to go on.

rodmn2377

Tomtom3105 wrote: »

If you think about who was involved tho are they not locked up on other crimes or dead there is no panic on the guards to bring the case the main suspect is going nowhere really

True but above all cases this one needed the cops to show ...look we have them caught already.. you wont get away with something as barbaric as this..so that's what makes me personally think they have very little to do anyone..

Tomtom3105

rodmn2377 wrote: »

I find it so hard to believe there is a video of the murder and it hasn't made it into the public domain... wattsapp is full of everything that happens now a days.. I'm not saying the lad who says he seen it would share it but usually others pass it on.. also if there was it would be front page in the news not just a few lines in the stories that there might be one... and if it was such a hash of a job in the house there would be lads charged now... with murder... not what jed is charged with... I think a lot of stuff was put out to try and get whoever's was involved to turn on each other and that there is very little evidence to back all this up... just my thoughts on it... probably way off with it all ..

If you think about who was involved tho are they not locked up on other crimes or dead there is no panic on the guards to bring the case the main suspect is going nowhere really

rodmn2377

Random Account wrote: »

Plenty around the town seen it, ran through every secondar school and sport team what app in the town. The Garda just lied and said it was fake to stop people searching for it. It was definitely 100% real. Surprised it wasn’t up in this forum as majority I know have seen it. Yeah no clue why everyone hasn’t been locked up we all know who’s involved and the Garda probably do . No clue why not though and the reasons

Dont get me wrong and not saying your wrong but a lad I know well is from rathmullen and plays on the wrong side of the tracks along with a lot of his family.. he would have been close to keane.. and none of them have seen it.. once again I'm not saying it's not there.. I just haven't heard it from anyone face to face who has actually seen it .

Tomtom3105

rodmn2377 wrote: »

I find it so hard to believe there is a video of the murder and it hasn't made it into the public domain... wattsapp is full of everything that happens now a days.. I'm not saying the lad who says he seen it would share it but usually others pass it on.. also if there was it would be front page in the news not just a few lines in the stories that there might be one... and if it was such a hash of a job in the house there would be lads charged now... with murder... not what jed is charged with... I think a lot of stuff was put out to try and get whoever's was involved to turn on each other and that there is very little evidence to back all this up... just my thoughts on it... probably way off with it all ..

It's not a video you want to look at tbh

Random Account

rodmn2377 wrote: »

I find it so hard to believe there is a video of the murder and it hasn't made it into the public domain... wattsapp is full of everything that happens now a days.. I'm not saying the lad who says he seen it would share it but usually others pass it on.. also if there was it would be front page in the news not just a few lines in the stories that there might be one... and if it was such a hash of a job in the house there would be lads charged now... with murder... not what jed is charged with... I think a lot of stuff was put out to try and get whoever's was involved to turn on each other and that there is very little evidence to back all this up... just my thoughts on it... probably way off with it all ..

Plenty around the town seen it, ran through every secondar school and sport team what app in the town. The Garda just lied and said it was fake to stop people searching for it. It was definitely 100% real. Surprised it wasn’t up in this forum as majority I know have seen it. Yeah no clue why everyone hasn’t been locked up we all know who’s involved and the Garda probably do . No clue why not though and the reasons