BakingSoda wrote: » You're implying they may have tortured him in the back garden or front garden for a period? It just seems crazy that they were so blatant. Do you think its true they rang Maguire to taunt him during the ordeal or soon after?
BakingSoda wrote: » KMW went missing on the 12th. PC was shot at on the 13th literally 24 hours after. It looks like they must have spent all night in that house cutting up the body and cleaning up. I wonder if PC girlfriend was there if they were in the taxi together, or did PC and the lads go home and come back to the gaf the next day? You're implying they may have tortured him in the back garden or front garden for a period? It just seems crazy that they were so blatant. Do you think its true they rang Maguire to taunt him during the ordeal or soon after?
Haladmirer wrote: » Tortured him in house, dismembered in garden when dead
Tomtom3105 wrote: » I was just thinking the same amazing what ppl can turn a blind eye to and say nothing then go on the news then talking bout this is a quiet area we are all shocked by this crime.
leko99 wrote: » Randam Account - What about the Kavanaghs? Are they still in the shadows or are they quietly active?
PressureDrop wrote: » Christ. Again that's very brazen if that's where it happened (wasn't there loads of blood found seeped into floorboards?). I don't know what the geography is like by the house... I am guessing it couldn't be overseen?
Random Account wrote: » No they gave him a kicking to get him inside I heard after he kind backed away after seeing all them at the door. So the grass was bloody. They are all thick, supposedly they set a fire in the back garden to burn evidence. Yeah I heard they sent pics to EM
Random Account wrote: » You gotta realize the hold these lads have on a area. Plus the house in in a little court area of housing in which is full of anti-McGuire. You’d be quickly found out if Garda were called. Very harsh but the people who seen just would be better of pretending they didn’t
PressureDrop wrote: » That has always haunted me. Imagining the moment he saw them and realised he was in mortal danger. He had been warned via GIM his life was in danger and the way in which he would be dispatched wasn't he? Well, so the reports said. If that's true... My god. I cannot imagine the utter torement. His poor mother. I don't think I could live knowing this had happened to my child.
BakingSoda wrote: » Do you know how the Guards found out where it happened? Do you think KMW told someone where he was going or did a local come forward to say they heard a commotion? Or was that the house where they always seemed to congregate so guards knew it was highly likely to be the murder spot? Also who was GmcK to them? He seems a far bit older than the gang and not a big player... Was he just a junkie who owed them money and they used his place?
Sureitlbegrand wrote: » Set de fire out on de Large green for the estate not the back garden. I heard there was 4 or 5 there that night PC JC Gmck n one other not RL do heard he was in a hotel captured on CCTV but directed the whole thing over a video call also heard they sent videos of it to the Maguire's as it was happening. Just what I heard whether true or not i dont know
Tomtom3105 wrote: » Jc? Wasn't jb there too?
Random Account wrote: » His father is a knacker , forget his nickname. I’ve little sympathy for them to be honest. Very harsh but they ignored and accepted what he was doing. Like they knew what he was doing. After his fire bombing he was threatened face to face so I think if you let your child go down that path. Accept his consequences. Yeah could only imagine the fear , seen the full videos of his dismemberment, ****ing sick. Save a lot of ****e on my phone but theirs somethings that can’t be. Yeah he was given a GIM from what I know of. How do they even work how does the Garda Know?
Sureitlbegrand wrote: » Heard she helped with the clean up. She was lifted a few weeks after and the garda were fairly rough with her knocked some teeth out because there fairly certain she has some involment
BakingSoda wrote: » Is there actually a full video? I've seen videos of body parts in black bin bags but I thought they were fakes. I've seen the snapchat message of '**** with us and you lose your head' is that real? Other ones I received was the body with a number of stab wounds but I don't know if that was real either. The only ones I know were real were the images of the head and body parts that were thrown around Dublin. There was also a video of a kid being attacked outside a house with machetes but I heard the video was from a different incident in Dublin.
BakingSoda wrote: » I think we'll never get the full details. I do think he was trusted with information regarding RC and he used that information to help the Maguire faction kill RC and then boasted about it to the Coolock lads. Word got back to RL and then combined with RL being hit and robbed on camera meant he had to do something drastic. I think PC was all too willing to make a point as well and happily obliged. He also seems like a pyscho who probably enjoyed it. I don't think we'll ever know how many were in the house and who was responsible for it (was it ordered by PC or RL or J/Kboys and why) I do wonder if on the day RL was attacked by those Coolock lads who were friends with KMW did they also taunt him off camera about KMW being involved in his brother in laws murder?
AcerJacer wrote: » Any1 know the Businessman in Leinster that CAB raided yesterday? Seized Range Rover, watches, documents etc
Banana Republic. wrote: » Am I right in saying he received The GIM & someone said he was told what would happen him if he was caught? Was that a Garda known info? If so it’s even more shocking, surely they knew who threatened his life?
Lilly_lou89 wrote: » The house in Meath where the Range Rover was taken was from the home of that muppet MS and his partner, or the “socialite” as he is known as.https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/city-socialite-arrested-as-1m-worth-of-heroin-seized-38461655.html
PressureDrop wrote: » All the news articles reported this. There were a couple of good pieces written about Keane and they stated the reason why his family became so immediately concerned was due to his GIM. I mean it makes sense. His sister went on fb and appealed not long after he went missing and you could tell she was desperate and frantic... 17 year olds often stay out. They KNEW something was seriously wrong as did his friends who were equally concerned. God knows how they knew the specific threat and who told them. I spend so much time wondering why the hell he didn't pay attention. Or maybe he did and he was lured by an obviously trusted mate. If I were his mother I'd have spent my last penny getting him away. But saying that... You can't FORCE a 17yo. And I bet he thought he knew better and he was tough enough to survive should someone come at him.
Lilly_lou89 wrote: » The house in Meath where the Range Rover was taken was from the home of that muppet MS and his partner, or the “socialite” as he is known as.
Random Account wrote: » They had a 7 minute video. Remember it clearly like dramatic but I actually think I’m scarred for life. Like I just remember everything crazy it is. So I’ve seen the body with the dick cut of which is the same as the don’t **** with us Snapchat . That’s fake. I think I’ve seen the body part one but didn’t care to find out we’re they real . The video is of him on his knees, bloodied . Crying and the lad takes literally a running start and stabs him with a hatch (not a stab as much but a downwards motion to the chest) . And then more followed which was hard and I stopped watching . There was about 5 minutes left so I don’t know what else happened . I heard that got sent to the McGuires and the locals of the age bracket from 17-25ish . Just to warn us like who’s boss
Random Account wrote: » The last part definitely, for some reason thought he could outsmart other older lads at 17. The boy was built like a 12 year old. Only person he fooled was himself. No offense to him but yeah should have packed the bags when given that official warning. Had 700 euro runners all over the house should have used that cash for a plane ticket
