BakingSoda wrote: » Do you know how the Guards found out where it happened? Do you think KMW told someone where he was going or did a local come forward to say they heard a commotion? Or was that the house where they always seemed to congregate so guards knew it was highly likely to be the murder spot? Also who was GmcK to them? He seems a far bit older than the gang and not a big player... Was he just a junkie who owed them money and they used his place?
BakingSoda wrote: » Is there actually a full video? I've seen videos of body parts in black bin bags but I thought they were fakes. I've seen the snapchat message of '**** with us and you lose your head' is that real? Other ones I received was the body with a number of stab wounds but I don't know if that was real either. The only ones I know were real were the images of the head and body parts that were thrown around Dublin. There was also a video of a kid being attacked outside a house with machetes but I heard the video was from a different incident in Dublin.
Sureitlbegrand wrote: » Heard she helped with the clean up. She was lifted a few weeks after and the garda were fairly rough with her knocked some teeth out because there fairly certain she has some involment
Random Account wrote: » His father is a knacker , forget his nickname. I’ve little sympathy for them to be honest. Very harsh but they ignored and accepted what he was doing. Like they knew what he was doing. After his fire bombing he was threatened face to face so I think if you let your child go down that path. Accept his consequences. Yeah could only imagine the fear , seen the full videos of his dismemberment, ****ing sick. Save a lot of ****e on my phone but theirs somethings that can’t be. Yeah he was given a GIM from what I know of. How do they even work how does the Garda Know?
Tomtom3105 wrote: » Jc? Wasn't jb there too?
Sureitlbegrand wrote: » Set de fire out on de Large green for the estate not the back garden. I heard there was 4 or 5 there that night PC JC Gmck n one other not RL do heard he was in a hotel captured on CCTV but directed the whole thing over a video call also heard they sent videos of it to the Maguire's as it was happening. Just what I heard whether true or not i dont know
BakingSoda wrote: » KMW went missing on the 12th. PC was shot at on the 13th literally 24 hours after. It looks like they must have spent all night in that house cutting up the body and cleaning up. I wonder if PC girlfriend was there if they were in the taxi together, or did PC and the lads go home and come back to the gaf the next day? You're implying they may have tortured him in the back garden or front garden for a period? It just seems crazy that they were so blatant. Do you think its true they rang Maguire to taunt him during the ordeal or soon after?
PressureDrop wrote: » That has always haunted me. Imagining the moment he saw them and realised he was in mortal danger. He had been warned via GIM his life was in danger and the way in which he would be dispatched wasn't he? Well, so the reports said. If that's true... My god. I cannot imagine the utter torement. His poor mother. I don't think I could live knowing this had happened to my child.
Random Account wrote: » No they gave him a kicking to get him inside I heard after he kind backed away after seeing all them at the door. So the grass was bloody. They are all thick, supposedly they set a fire in the back garden to burn evidence. Yeah I heard they sent pics to EM
Random Account wrote: » You gotta realize the hold these lads have on a area. Plus the house in in a little court area of housing in which is full of anti-McGuire. You’d be quickly found out if Garda were called. Very harsh but the people who seen just would be better of pretending they didn’t
PressureDrop wrote: » Christ. Again that's very brazen if that's where it happened (wasn't there loads of blood found seeped into floorboards?). I don't know what the geography is like by the house... I am guessing it couldn't be overseen?
leko99 wrote: » Randam Account - What about the Kavanaghs? Are they still in the shadows or are they quietly active?
Tomtom3105 wrote: » I was just thinking the same amazing what ppl can turn a blind eye to and say nothing then go on the news then talking bout this is a quiet area we are all shocked by this crime.
Haladmirer wrote: » Tortured him in house, dismembered in garden when dead
BakingSoda wrote: » You're implying they may have tortured him in the back garden or front garden for a period? It just seems crazy that they were so blatant. Do you think its true they rang Maguire to taunt him during the ordeal or soon after?
Random Account wrote: » The screams from GmCK’s gaff that evening was haunting. A public interaction before he was dragged in. Like in most estates many were on the green only 50 m away seeing everything. Do think he was involved in the PC murder and the KB murder. (Caravan shooting , wasn’t that his initials can’t quite remember) . Also his partnerships were key. Was becoming a bit of a player in the area thinking PC wouldn’t cop on. Silly boy to be honest but didn’t deserve that. Worse people have only got a bullet (I say only like death isn’t bad). Don’t know why the papers won’t show the grass in the garden of the house. Wasn’t green anyways
PressureDrop wrote: » I always wondered too. If people saw a confrontation outside and could hear blood curdling screams.... Surely the killers were taking a massive risk? Someone could have reported it so easily. That is very very brazen. I know people may have been too scared to call the cops, but you can do it anonymously. I find it so hard to imagine how so many people could ignore it for.... Well, they said he was tortured. Torture isn't usually quick. If I were someone who witnessed this I would be haunted for the rest of my life knowing I could have called the cops and potentially stopped it.
BakingSoda wrote: » Jesus didn't know the gang was that big. Kids or not, that is serious numbers of impressionable people they have available to do their biding..
Banana Republic. wrote: » Had to be more then that to get the killing that he did, I think the double crossing theory has some relevance to it, playing both sides and it makes sense as it does seem he was led down the garden path (pun not intended) he must of known the person well who led him to the slaughter house. GmcK it seems. Anyone getting too big like that would likely get a bullet, it had to be personal, like being the spotter for RC’s Murder or underestimating PC as previously mentioned or all two to have RL included.
rodmn2377 wrote: » Wasnt it said that kmw was getting drugs from flashy and selling and this was also one of the reasons he was killed.. it was said he was selling loads and wanted to nip it before he got too big..
Random Account wrote: » No problem. I’d say about 70 strong. That again it’s full of kids really lol. It’s the main lads and a few older lads from 30 about. Then everyone else would be from 14-25. They are only brave when the two were alive/out. But I’ve yet to see to much but that’s mainly due to lockdown . I see the majority just riding those ****ing dirt bikes up and down (see they are that young they still do that) . I can hear them riding them now as I type in the distance in fact . Surprising as it’s lashing lol. On the supplying part, I’d never know and I don’t want to be that involved in which I’d know. They are getting supplies anyway but I couldn’t honestly tell you who. Also drogheda is a bigger supply spot that many would realise, lots of dough to be made up here. Big population (should be a city in my opinion) (hopefully we become one lol)
