namloc1980 wrote: » The IDA got planning a few months back for enhanced cycle and pedestrian pathways in the estate as well as a bus lane, new bus shelters also. No idea when these might actually be put in place though.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » Ah I understand what you're saying now. I don't know enough about that Kildare Village junction or the traffic to the shopping centre to either agree or disagree! I only know that the N25 junction is currently quite busy. I agree with pretty much all of your post. It's absolutely spot on. LGR, Tivoli and Dunkettle are extremely hostile to cyclists and pedestrians at present. You're the very definition of the low-hanging fruit I'm always blabbering on about in the infrastructure forum: you actually want to cycle this route, aren't put off by the distance or terrain, and the current transport infrastructure is what's impeding you. I suspect many on the infrastructure forum think I'm making it up but there's absolutely loads of people in your position. I know several in my circle of friends.
timmyjimmy wrote: » if there were a cycle lane that would make an easier connection to the Glounthaune train station, I reckon it would take around 5/6 mins to cycle to work.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » The design for this is in progress at the moment. It's quite low quality unfortunately, with no segregation between cyclists and pedestrians and no protection from parking at the shops/restaurants on the route but it would at least link the IDA estate with Glounthaune train station.
timmyjimmy wrote: » That would be awesome if it came into fruition, that would mean that I would use the train during winter to get to work and cycle all the way during the summer if it were safe. I would also mean that I would barely need to use my car.
timmyjimmy wrote: » I've lived and worked in other cities around the world and Cork is the only one that i've forced to drive. Sorting Tivoli is a no brainer, I can cycle to Little Island from St luke's by bike in 20mins, pretty much the same time as my car in the morning. Carrigtwohill takes me half an hour. Cork is the right size to get cycling right but the powers that be are so car dominant, they can't see that people will cycle if the infrastructure is there. I reckon half of those in power never lived outside of Cork and have no idea how proper cycling infrastructure works. They're happy to live in their semi d in Douglas and drive absolutely everywhere.
namloc1980 wrote: » Is that the Burys Bridge to Carrigtwohill scheme? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmGKIKZ8M64
rebs23 wrote: » Started cycling to Little Island from the City during the pandemic but had to revert to car last week due to traffic increase and you are simply taking your life in your hands along the Lower Glanmire Road/Tivoli/Dunkettle Interchange but I am going to try the train now. Simply hadn't thought of that option but what struck me cycling last few weeks is that it wouldn't take much for a cycle lane along the train line by Tivoli from skew bridge to edge of Dunkettle or along city quays.
Outkast_IRE wrote: » Yes , the lack of dedicated cycling infrastructure both to and from Little Island to the city is criminal. Its one of the flattest cycling routes possible, following the river. The works ongoing around Dunkettle will provide safer options when its all complete but the lower glanmire road is still a hazard, cycling within feet of 100-80km/hr traffic HGVs is unnerving. The other item they could of tackled by now is sorting the trains out to take proper amounts of bikes and providing cycling infrastructure around the island, but they havent even made an attempt to pretend they are interested in that.
Treehelpplease wrote: » I'm confused, is that not just a wider than normal footpath?
namloc1980 wrote: » It's a 4 metre wide shared pathway for pedestrians and cyclists. Far from ideal but about a billion times better than what's currently there.
lawrencesummers wrote: » That’s a pretty quiet road anyway, is it really the most badly needed upgrade of infrastructure for cycling in the city, or just one that can be completed the easiest and cheapest so the council can give a great statistic on having implemented X km of cycling infrastructure???? Wouldn’t a pathway service the south to douglas / Rochestown / grange or the east to Glanmire / little island be far more beneficial.
namloc1980 wrote: » Maybe but this is being done by the County Council. City Council would have responsibility for Douglas, Rochestown, Grange, Glanmire etc. Little Island is being incorporated into some upgrades as part of the Dunkettle scheme (whenever it gets going). The Burys Bridge to Carrigtwohill scheme actually will work well. At the west end it'll link to the Dunkettle scheme upgrades and at the east end it'll link to upgrades in the IDA estate and give direct cycle/pedestrian access to the train station in Carrigtwohill.
hans aus dtschl wrote: » This is effectively a leisure greenway: it's inadequate as transport infrastructure. The majority of current cyclists will continue to use the road. This was pretty clear in the consultation meetings and submissions. The scheme has no access link to Little Island, Cobh, or Carrigtohill. It's not protected from parking at any of the businesses on the route. The majority of new users will be children going to/from the school at the Dunkettle Interchange, which is a start in fairness. The Dunkettle scheme consists of a 2km diversion uphill north of the interchange, around 5 roundabouts across two dual carriageway slip ramps and finally into Little Island. Both of these schemes are straightforward tick-box exercises. There's been no real effort to consider current or potential users. They won't be tested after build to see if they're effective. The overall objective of both is extremely simple: the upgrade of the N25 to M status.
namloc1980 wrote: » It's a start and not an end on itself. Cobh is a different beast given the state of the fota road which is lethal for cycling on and bad to drive on too. As I said it's far from ideal but it's better than anything else we have in the county or city.
snotboogie wrote: » Work started back up on the Crows Nest today. Demolition seems to be ongoing at the York Street hotel too.
