Justin Credible Darts wrote: » does not matter if the pedestrianize or bot...the city is dead. Who is going to go through town traffic, look for parking to walk around a city with countless closed up shops.....when they can go to blackpool or mahon get easy parking, have places argos, there are cinemas,decent restaurants etc Bar pubs at night, I find there is nothing to go to the city centre for, unless avoiding junkies is your pastime
snotboogie wrote: » There isn't a single decent restaurant in Mahon. Blackpool has a few nice ones but to say you can't find anything in the city that you wouldn't in Mahon or Blackpool is ridiculous hyperbole.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » You say my comment is ridiculous, enlighten me then Einstein of the things the city centre offer other than congested traffic, boarded up shops, junkies tapping everyone , out of tune buskers etc. stand outside the old roches stores and look across the street where A-wear, quills , the savoy were ....all gone, debenhams bailing out, units all over the place boarded up.
wakka12 wrote: » You have an oddly distorted view of Cork. I have only visited the place once as a tourist and I found it to be an amazingly vibrant city and I don't recall almost any borded up shops. Pedestrianising it would make it even nicer, one of the more enjoyable city trips I've had anywhere in Europe.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » a shopping zone to attract people in cars, its simply not worth it.
rebs23 wrote: » The days of City Centres as shopping zones to attract people in cars is over.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » yeah camden quay would look nice like that....but with no cars or parking you then have to depend on the appalling public transport to get in town, and hope the nearest bus stop to the spot means less junkies you have to pass on the way, or beggars tapping you, or avoiding awful buskers. Its nice to have dreams, but I cannot see it in my lifetime, as you say its not that we would not want it, but lets be realistic, look at the system in our city.. Granted with the proposed new buildings it will visually look a lot more vibrant, and whilst there might be more to the city than just shopping, those empty stores are awful no matter how much spin people try to use to deflect from it.
namloc1980 wrote: » That's why we have CMATS to transform transport in the city. It's not perfect but it would open up a whole load of opportunities. The alternative is to do nothing and just let the place die - which is the current policy of City Hall. Doing nothing is worse than trying something! By the way I don't think Cork has as bad a problem with junkies as you make out. Sure they are there but not a huge pressing issue. Most cities I've been to have a much more visible problem, case in point, Dublin.
Captainsatnav wrote: » Dublin's very, very bad for the junkies.I live here but am looking at houses in Cork to try to own my own home. If 5% of CMATS sees actual human use upon implementation I'll eat my hat. Cork can't even police the bike lanes it has now, nor adequately maintain/promote the public bike scheme.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » yeah camden quay would look nice like that....but with no cars or parking you then have to depend on the appalling public transport to get in town, and hope the nearest bus stop to the spot means less junkies you have to pass on the way, or beggars tapping you, or avoiding awful buskers. Its nice to have dreams, but I cannot see it in my lifetime, as you say its not that we would not want it, but lets be realistic, look at the system in our city..
namloc1980 wrote: » Improved buses with integrated ticketing, bus lanes and a Luas. Electrified suburban rail also. And you think nobody will use that. You do realise that the current city bus service has c.13m passenger journeys per year as it is? Suburban rail another 2m+ plus in its current form. By your estimation of 5% use, you see public transport numbers plummeting on an improved system. Do you have some studies or anything to show that's what would happen?
Captainsatnav wrote: » Poorly worded on my part. I mean if 5% of CMATS sees the light of day and has active users, THEN I'd say my hat I'm basing this pessimism regrettably on past (lack of) performance in any way, shape or form of city council beyond pandering to the private car and also the fact that all we've been getting for a couple of years now on Nationwide on RTE and the Sunday Business Post special supplement s about "Cork Rising" and the likes are the same regurgitation of a "city on the cusp"... Time to sh1t or get off the pot now.
Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: » Meanwhile, on French Church Street, this has managed to sneak it's way past the planning dept in City Hall it seems...https://twitter.com/RandomCorkStuff/status/1262314473932697601?s=19
Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: » 6 hours a day pedestrianisation of tiny streets and they couldn't even get that right. It'd be funny if it wasn't so damn pathetic. They'd want to start getting the finger out quickly. And Queen Ann and Tarmac Terry wonder why they receive criticism online?!
the beer revolu wrote: » Justin Edgy Darts being edgy! You tell it like it is, Justin! Justin likes to spew stuff that he thinks will get on people's nerves - It's mostly nonsense but it gets some people going. Yes, we all know that Cork is awash with junkies, right?
Captainsatnav wrote: » Where do they get abuse online?...Because I'd like to add to it.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » You are someone with an agenda who is so parochial you think any criticism of cork must be trolling. It wont change the facts Patrick Street has countless empty shops, Wont change the fact junkies roam the streets and places like Winthrop Street is a disgrace at night for fighting and gangs of pissed up youths hanging around It wont change the fact the public transport is rubbish It wont change the fact there seems to be less gardai on the street as each year passes. Having a pop at me wont alter the facts, it wont make all the shops open and the streets safer or the buses run on time etc
rebs23 wrote: » Ah come on Justin you West Ham supporting Darts fan that has never posted a positive comment about Cork. Is it any wonder you attract this type of response when you consistently engage in negative commentary about the City you claim you come from. You dislike the place you come from so much that you have consistently refused to capitalise the "c" in Cork, you will not support either Cork City or Cork in GAA matches and you consistently grossly exaggerate the negative aspects of the city. There may be some merit in your comments on garda patrols or the behaviour of the homeless/vagrants/drug addicts but it is the gross exaggeration is the problem. How about telling us what you like about the place occasionally or acknowledging that Cork City has the lowest crime rate of all of Irelandl's cities or the vibrant cultural activities in the city centre, or the cafe / food scene, multi cuturalism of the city but no you compare fecking dull take aways in a shopping centre to the offering in the city centre. Tell us are you really from Cork or just a troll from some hell hole elsewhere that is jealous of what Cork has become.
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