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Beep scheme - anyone joining

Mac Taylor

As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not

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Lime Tree Farm

tanko wrote: »

agriculture.gov.ie/beep-s
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https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/beep/RevisedApprovedLaboratorieslist08052020.pdf

tanko

High bike wrote: »

sound thanks 1st year in it so just getting the hang of it.Thats some RIP off 25e a sh1t:D

Are you sure it's not €25 for ten samples?

Lime Tree Farm

Might be able to shop around : here's one for a start.

https://www.farmlab.ie/product/beep-scheme-kit/

893bet

Justjens wrote: »

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

Are you required to prove that you dosed then in accordance with the results?

High bike

tanko wrote: »

agriculture.gov.ie/beep-s
Down the bottom of the page

sound thanks 1st year in it so just getting the hang of it.Thats some RIP off 25e a sh1t:D

tanko

High bike wrote: »

where did u get the list of labs?

agriculture.gov.ie/beep-s
Down the bottom of the page

High bike

tanko wrote: »

25 yoyos a poop really is taking the pi$$, i wonder how much they were charging before this scheme?
I see Oldcastle Labs on the list, must give them a ring on Monday.

where did u get the list of labs?

tanko

Justjens wrote: »

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

25 yoyos a poop really is taking the pi$$, i wonder how much they were charging before this scheme?
I see Oldcastle Labs on the list, must give them a ring on Monday.

Justjens

Got a quote from Animal Health Labs for faecal testing at €25 a poop, container/post included.

Seems we have to do 10 samples regardless of herd size, that leaves about fifty quid for my time scooping ****e, anyone else get a quote for the testing.

Anto_Meath

Sugarbowl wrote: »

Yeah all cows have to be weighed again

Ye for anyone that has signed up if you look at the list of cows to be weighed its all cows that calved since the 1st July, even if they were weighed last year.

Sugarbowl

tanko wrote: »

Am i right in saying that all cows have to be weighed this year including the cows that were weighed last year?

Yeah all cows have to be weighed again

ABitofsense

tanko wrote: »

The dung samples don't have to be linked to specific cows afaik.

The specs read as if the sample needs to be labelled for each cow though

tanko

Grueller wrote: »

How will they know who did what sh1te. We hardly have to genomic tag the sh1te now too?

The dung samples don't have to be linked to specific cows afaik.

Am i right in saying that all cows have to be weighed this year including the cows that were weighed last year?

Grueller

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Watched the cows today when I was moving them to a bit of grass. Most of them did a poop when they stood up. Gathering sh1te won't be a problem.

How will they know who did what sh1te. We hardly have to genomic tag the sh1te now too?

patsy_mccabe

Watched the cows today when I was moving them to a bit of grass. Most of them did a poop when they stood up. Gathering sh1te won't be a problem.

Hard Knocks

Hurling Hereford wrote: »

Give ICBF a buzz on (023) 8832883 and they'll advise you as to what to do fairly lively

When you login
Select BEEP-S under Services
Select View/Register Own Scales
Then Register/Add scales

Hurling Hereford

Sligoronan wrote: »

Did anybody register scales yet. I can seem to find how to do so on the ICBF site.

Give ICBF a buzz on (023) 8832883 and they'll advise you as to what to do fairly lively

Dozer1

so on the vaccination option,
is there a reason we can't vaccinate them as calves as oppose to having to tackle them as weanlings.
I thought from here https://www.bovilis.ie/pneumonia/ it would make more sense to do then as calves but from below it looks like its only to be done max 8 weeks prior to weaning/housing/sale

Applicants must choose one of the following vaccination protocols:
Option 1. (if there is a short time before risk period or if cattle can only be handled once)
Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale
At the same time, a Single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4
weeks before weaning/housing/sale)

Option 2. (if there is more time before risk period or a broader coverage including bacteria isrequired)
First subcutaneous injection of RSV, Pi3 and Mannhaemia haemolytica dead, 6 to 8
weeks before weaning/housing/sale
Second subcutaneous injection of RSV, Pi3 and Mannhaemia haemolytica dead, 2 to 4weeks before weaning/housing/sale
At the same time as the second injection, a Single IBR live intra-muscular, 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale

The procedures in both options must be completed in full and are equally applicable to both spring and autumn born calves

bogman_bass

ABitofsense wrote: »

From reading the criteria for the Faecal samples, it states that a min of 10 samples be taken and that the cows tag be recorded for each container. It reads like every cow needs to be sampled, could be a while watching & waiting for cows to sh#te in the yard!! Am i interpreting it correctly

Run 10 of them up the crush. Stick a gloved finger in her bum and she’ll give you a sample.

alps

Turbohymac wrote: »

the eu have now given an initial 80million to irish meat factories to store excess meat for up to 6 months ..

Just wondering....would it have made more sense to send back the unsold cuts to the farmer?

ABitofsense

From reading the criteria for the Faecal samples, it states that a min of 10 samples be taken and that the cows tag be recorded for each container. It reads like every cow needs to be sampled, could be a while watching & waiting for cows to sh#te in the yard!! Am i interpreting it correctly

oneten

playbook ? that implies forward planning , and a coherent strategy to achieve concrete results
no chance .

bogman_bass

Turbohymac wrote: »

Feck all these penny making schemes around making farmers jump through hoops for pittance..it far past time that farm produce actually made a decent price that wouldn't require loads of stupid subsidies and grants..the eu have now given an initial 80million to irish meat factories to store excess meat for up to 6 months..AND the president of ifa was bladdering that at least the door was open and there would hopefully room for much more money from the EU to meat processors.. and wait for it the ifa guy then went on to say that hopefully the meat factories might be able to pass some of the 80m onto the farmers when there selling their animals into the factories... ok good to see brown envelopes are still around ..

Well there is a post straight from the Beefplan playbook

Turbohymac

Feck all these penny making schemes around making farmers jump through hoops for pittance..it far past time that farm produce actually made a decent price that wouldn't require loads of stupid subsidies and grants..the eu have now given an initial 80million to irish meat factories to store excess meat for up to 6 months..AND the president of ifa was bladdering that at least the door was open and there would hopefully room for much more money from the EU to meat processors.. and wait for it the ifa guy then went on to say that hopefully the meat factories might be able to pass some of the 80m onto the farmers when there selling their animals into the factories... ok good to see brown envelopes are still around ..

minerleague

Dunedin wrote: »

As long as I keep getting money, I hope they keep justifying their jobs.......

I suppose but income from actual farming seems to go down by the same amount as we get in
payments opening us up to criticism from anti farming types that were unviable. also as I get older these scheme ( including glas ) seem more like dole payments

Dunedin

minerleague wrote: »

Joined up after saying was done with any more schemes (fed up with inspections etc ) but like bord bia it is almost compulsory by default to be in. A lot of these schemes seem to be dreamed up by people justifying their jobs by doing something.

As long as I keep getting money, I hope they keep justifying their jobs.......

minerleague

Joined up after saying was done with any more schemes (fed up with inspections etc ) but like bord bia it is almost compulsory by default to be in. A lot of these schemes seem to be dreamed up by people justifying their jobs by doing something.

solerina

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

Is it not compulsory to be on icbf for the likes of these schemes

tanko

Jeo John wrote: »

I signed up for Beep a week ago how do you know if application is accepted??

You can check on Agfood.ie under BEEP-S, Applications, view Application. Or you can check on ICBF.com. I'm not sure if you need Herdplus to do this.

Jeo John

I signed up for Beep a week ago how do you know if application is accepted??