FrancieBrady wrote: » It was several other posters who were 'blaming the people' for spreading the virus.
markodaly wrote: » Im confused tbh. So you were building a wall?
markodaly wrote: » Running away from the question, but grand.
Mortelaro wrote: » Huh No ,you're deliberately missing my point and trying desperately but unsuccessfully to deflect People spread the virus it was in the peoples hands (literally) to at least slow it That proved impossible The virus does know what 2 metres is btw Loads of people too many didn't prior to lock down
blanch152 wrote: » If people go around breaking the lockdown rules, then we have problems. There are also problems with the more lax arrangements put in place by the SF/DUP government in the North as can be seen by the higher per capita rates in Cavan and Monaghan. It can't all be wall-builders.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Love the way the SF lads are in here and vanished form the SF thread after getting rinsed:)
Bowie wrote: » You are telling lies here.
FrancieBrady wrote: » .....and deflection.
Mortelaro wrote: » How is pointing out the obvious flaw in your suggestions that there are other options for government deflection? You brought it up last night yourself in this thread Dogs dinners recipes are available for replies
Mortelaro wrote: » Aaaaaaand we have the dogs supper reply He was against it in the debate too but said only as a last resort The two positions are not mutually exclusive
FrancieBrady wrote: » Fabulous Mort. Well done again.
markodaly wrote: » Why are you so quick to blame Francie. An honest question. Do you have a morbid fascination with this?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Excellent dissection and take down of Leo's outburst yesterday. (I have no idea of the credentials of 'Jonathon Victory' but I am not seeing much in the way of lies or spin about what he says.https://twitter.com/VictoryFound/status/1258459141196128256
McMurphy wrote: » Someone made a very salient point on that twitter thread, along the exact same points as I have made elsewhere. Leo tried to score a point yesterday about the shinners helping out in their communities, and likened it to "Trump giving out toilet rolls" as some kind of derogatory slur. This is presumably the same Donald Trump leo was so in awe of that he interfered in a planning process against a renewable energy wind farm to try and protect Donald Trump's private business interests. And that man stood up in the Dail and accused anyone else of being "two faced"? Oh dear.
People spread it=Fact
McMurphy wrote: » Is it true Leo referred to the Belfast branch of FG as (wait for it.....) "Their overseas branch" on Newstalk with Pat Kenny this morning? Oh please make it be true.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This could follow you around like a stink follows a skunk Leo.
markodaly wrote: » Leo's point is lost on you Francie. Leo stated he would be embarrassed to hand out food parcels and post photos of it on Social Media. The premise being, instead of handing out food pracels, govern the country! The attack at SF for doing the food parcel thing is very legit. They are more interested in PR rather than governing. Their time in Stormont is an indication of that. Now one, could defend SF record in the north, or they could follow Leos twttier account to deflect.
FrancieBrady wrote: » He is some gift to any opposing party, you have to give him that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Leo wouldn't be embarrassed to strip down to his socks and run naked up O'Connell Street at rush hour if there was something in it for him.
That is not even to get started on the anti-Irish lies he told as well.
markodaly wrote: » Is this some thinly vield homophobia on display?
What 'anti-Irish' lies are these, exactly?
FrancieBrady wrote: » His suggestion that but for Tory largesse that the place in which many many fellow Irish people live would be much worse, was deeply insulting to those people.
markodaly wrote: » So stating a fact that NI's deficit of £9 Billion plugged by Westminister is: a) a lie (which it isn't) b) anti-Irish (which it isn't) He is correct, without the British government bailing out the NI government to that tune every year, the region would be far far worse off.https://factcheckni.org/fact-checks/how-dependent-is-stormont-on-westminster-subvention/
FrancieBrady wrote: » Mark...sorry to teach you a bit about the world. It is NOT the Tory's money.
Leo was trying to insult in a cheap and particularly nasty way, he succeeded and displayed for all to see what he really thinks. Referring to Belfast as 'overseas' later reinforced that.
markodaly wrote: » I didn't not say it was, did I? Changing the tune now of the argument. What he stated was 100% correct, both factually and in spirit. NI is the region of the UK that receives the most money from the British Taxpayer, yet the place is an economic cesspit. SF and the DUP still cant run it correctly, nor reform it, as they both want to retain its sectarian nature as they benifit from it. Now, what this has to do with FG, I do not know, but this is a losing argument for you and I do not want to go down that road with you as its just tedious. Anyway, we, get it. You do not like Leo, nor FG. We get it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » That is not even to get started on the anti-Irish lies he told as well.
blanch152 wrote: » What do you mean by this? There is a history of SF types, most recently that obnoxious councillor from Tallaght, questioning Varadkars Irishness and getting in digs like that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Nothing to do with Leo's family heritage. Explained already ^ He chose to insult Irish people living on this island by implying that they are dependent on Tory largess. Please spare yourself a long winded explanation on Leo's behalf as mark did. If he meant something else, he should have said something else. Same as his 'overseas' comment. He is like Enda, he let's the mask slip, clearly has the shinners living under his bed too.
FrancieBrady wrote: » If you want to excuse that be as longwinded as you like about stuff he never said.
markodaly wrote: » Sure he was just asking questions.