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Digital ID's for everyone

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Bill Gates referring to digital ID microchipping on an AMA in Reddit

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Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's getting a bit insufferable when a certain user seems to literally make the exact same posts over and over again while showing no desire to engage in a discussion.

Yup, spam the thread with the same shìte over and over and attempts to hammer people for answers yet refuses to answer the simplest of yes/no questions.

Ted_YNWA

Mod

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

You are twisting the manifesto of id2020.org and it's partners to your own disinformation campaign

You are doing this too.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Sorry of this is all too much hard science all at once, for some to process.
This proof of concept does not require any additional 'prediction', it's reality in itself.

Again, treat people with respect if you want a discussion. Taking digs like this is guaranteed to have them against you.

[Deleted User]

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

No.

You are twisting the manifesto of id2020.org and it's partners to your own disinformation campaign, based on some skygod theology.

Well we've gone over this before and shown that to be the case.
You've been very dishonest about what you post and you continue to be dishonest and evasive on your own position.

And again it's not our "skygod theology". it's yours.
You are the one who believe that manifesto is the mark of the beast predicted in the bible.

Again, if you want us to drop the topic, you just have to say that you don't believe that.
But you won't say that.
Because for some reason, despite your dishonesty and evasiveness you won't outright lie about your position.
It's a bit weird, but kinda admirable.

4068ac1elhodqr

Again, the "skygod theology" aspect is wholly irrelevant, I view this is a clear and malicious diversion from the topic, and will continue to ignore and call it out as such.
'predictions' of any type are simply 'interesting', much like horoscopes. When reality superseeds any theory, then it's a different ball game entirely.

The only thing that is relevant is the 'reality' regarding the topic of 'Digital ID's for everyone' (is there a push to give everyone on the planet a Digital ID).
id2020.org have this as their clear singular manifesto, also as clear objectives on their many programs e.g. iRespond, Everest, MyPass and work with states (Bangladesh).

Reality: Already we have the clear set-out manifesto and objectives of the holding group (id2020.org).
Reality: Already we have the technology (current and in-progress) unique levels of innovation for 'birth-to-death persistant human subject identifers'.
Reality: Already we have the pilot schemes and programs rolled out, for such digital identifers, using the one digital platform.
Reality: Already we have the id2020.org partners (Misrosoft/GAVI/BGates etc) supporting this intent through constant innovation
Reality: Already we have post-identifer usage, whereby crypto-wallets are in use (one of the main practical realisations).

This topic should be of interest to everyone in light of COVID19,
whereby science now makes it possible to combine a 'unique subject identifer' alongside 7bn vaccines.

The main variable (or theory) now, is to what penetration level to expect in 18mths time. For that it's a case of wait and see.
The inital pre-COVID target was for 1.1bn people (developing world only), pre-2030. However this was before recent events.

The other aspect to consider is if it is a good or bad thing. It can be both and really depends on the finer details.

Dohnjoe

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Knew it wouldn't be long before the less intelligent here (and the thankers of such) had to resort to some nonsense about the moon, lol.
Previous to that there was flat earth, chemtrials, ufos, tv sci-fi, aleyjones and other very childish non-related spurious drivel.

Another general insult against posters here. You don't properly address questions. You constantly deflect and engage in bizarre childishness. You have made several "book of revelations" posts yet refuse to address any questions about your biblical prophecy beliefs. You constantly paste (spam) the same links over and over. You drench every post you make in false objectivity.

Every post is so mealy mouthed, it's hard to actually tell what your position is on any of this.

No one in here knows what your conspiracy is, you refuse to answer properly, even the other resident conspiracy theorist can't explain it..

[Deleted User]

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Again, the "skygod theology" aspect is wholly irrelevant, I view this is a clear and malicious diversion from the topic, and will continue to ignore and call it out as such.
'predictions' of any type are simply 'interesting', much like horoscopes. When reality superseeds any theory, then it's a different ball game entirely.
.

But again, it's not a diversion. it's the source of your theory.

You are ignoring it because you realise that admitting that it's part of your conspiracy belief would make you look very ridiculous.

You can keep ignoring it all you like, but it's not helping your position.
Everyone already knows your belief and your refusal to address it is just making it all the more clear.

Again, if it's all irrelevenat and you don't believe it, why not just say that you don't believe it?

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Reality: Already we have the clear set-out manifesto and objectives of the holding group (id2020.org).

But as we've pointed out, you've dishonestly misrepresented that manifest and those objectives so that it can fit into your biblical beliefs in a silly supernatural prophesy.

There's no reason to take you seriously.

4068ac1elhodqr

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You drench every post you make in false objectivity..

Yet another general insult you have posted, along with distractions of false sci-fi childish nonsense.

As you can see all my posts are based entirely upon realty and fact, you've even been directed to links of actual product patents and various id2020 projects, all of which you choose to ignore and instead supply insults. Clear to all, a diversion tactic.

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

But again, it's not a diversion. it's the source of your theory.

But again, that's your theory (or attempt of anti-theory), it's not mine.

Mine is purley based on the hard science and reality of id2020.org and it's objectives, programs, partners, products and associations.

Problem is your are now arguing against reality, and it doesn't suit does it.

[Deleted User]

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

But again, that's your theory (or attempt of anti-theory), it's not mine.

Ok. So you are saying that you don't believe that the stuff you're talking about is the mark of the beast from the bible?

Is this correct?

Dohnjoe

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Yet another general insult you have posted

It's not a general insult, I'll ask the questions again

If I look up digital ID and conspiracy theories I find a lot of religious prophecy, book of revelations stuff...

Is that all nonsense? Or do you share any of those beliefs?

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. So you are saying that you don't believe that the stuff you're talking about is the mark of the beast from the bible?
Is this correct?

So you're asking about the belief of something that is now technically proven to exist in many tirals as entirely viable (buying and selling using a mark).
If such a thing can exist, then gues what... it exists, yes?

You disagree?

The 'mark' e.g. QDT should not be consider to be a big ole beast, lol!

It's a 'mark', however... it this new digital identifer mark can certainly be used for concepts of good, or for bad if you want to consider that (ask the lad that stamped serial numbers of folks arms, back in the 40's).

The reality is, that the scope and breath of a Digital ID identifer (based on the hard science and reality of id2020.org and it's objectives, programs, partners, products and associations)... These all go well beyond anything written in a book 2,000yrs ago in terms of the simple concept of buying or selling. So is a lazy reference point going forward.

The scope of this universal DigitalID program is way huge to say the least.

[Deleted User]

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

So you're asking about the belief of something that is now technically proven to exist in many tirals as entirely viable (buying and selling using a mark).
If such a thing can exist, then gues what... it exists, yes?

You disagree?

The 'mark' e.g. QDT should not be consider to be a big ole beast, lol!

It's a 'mark', however... it this new digital identifer mark can certainly be used for concepts of good, or for bad if you want to consider that (ask the lad that stamped serial numbers of folks arms, back in the 40's).

The reality is, that the scope and breath of a Digital ID identifer (based on the hard science and reality of id2020.org and it's objectives, programs, partners, products and associations)... These all go well beyond anything written in a book 2,000yrs ago in terms of the simple concept of buying or selling. So is a lazy reference point going forward.

The scope of this universal DigitalID program is way huge to say the least.

Lol not only is this post kind of incomprehensible and nonsensical, it's a total dodge.

That proves my point.

You do believe that it is a supernatural prediction and this forms the basis of your silly conspiracy theory.

4068ac1elhodqr

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's not a general insult, I'll ask the questions again

And I'll also ask the questions again

If you look up id2020.org and all of its programs the 'Digital ID' concept is a clear. Is that all nonsense in your view?

Cheerful Spring2

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Knew it wouldn't be long before the less intelligent here (and the thankers of such) had to resort to some nonsense about the moon, lol.
Previous to that there was flat earth, chemtrials, ufos, tv sci-fi, aleyjones and other very childish non-related spurious drivel.

Meanwhile back in the real world of actual science...

BillGates is trying to claim personal global ownership of most likely vaccine candidate (by throwing $bn's at various labs).
The technologist isn't even a virologist.

- to get it out to all 7bn on the planet, in 30% of the previous quickest ever time of 5yrs.
No three-phased trials, or scale up. Intsead small scale, to large total global manufacturing.
What ever could go wrong, with the rejection of normal licensing?

In line with id2020.org manifesto
https://id2020.org/digital-identity

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The only follow the CIA drivel of information put out there for decades. If CNN and MSBC don't confirm something for them it all nonsense. They don't think people have agendas pushing one narrative over the other online and in to education. The forget the official media is the spokespeople for the official narrative. It only really changed because of Trump, with Fox News refusing to believe some of the Russians narratives put out there by the deep state. I not saying Russia did not collude online to get Trump elected, but the Russians did not switch the votes. The Americans are just crazy and they elected this guy to give the establishment a bloody nose, but of course, they forget Trump is a billionaire and never lived in poverty.

The debunkers see all conspiracies as nuts, it their world belief. Mick West sees seaguls in UFO videos where everyone else sees an object of mass.

I think you have proven your point Gates funded a Quantum Tattoo study.
Microsoft is involved in ID2000 likely with Gates support.
Just explain why is its a conspiracy and we go from there.
I know you explained some of it already.
It's information overload at the moment and you need to explain the conspiracy.

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

Lol not only is this post kind of incomprehensible and nonsensical....

LOL, not only did you fail to answer the question set to you, you made a complete dodge of it.
Then to round it off, you've reverted back to (your own) theory about skygods woo-woo sci-fi and such like.

My theory does not require such speculation, it's based on actual proven science and demonstration of such programs of Digital ID.

That simply proves my point (again) of your own campaign of active topic diversion.

4068ac1elhodqr

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I think you have proven your point Gates funded a Quantum Tattoo study.
Microsoft is involved in ID20 likely with Gates support.
Just explain why is its a conspiracy and we go from there.
I know you explained some of it already.
It's information overload at the moment and you need to explain the conspiracy.

Most of your first paragraph is entirely meaningless in this context (ufos, trump and so on) and bears no relevance, same goes for the 9/11 stuff. All totally off topic and honestly has no place here.

There are various conspiracies at play in regards to 'Digital ID's for everyone'.

I have outlined these all before, and in light of recent global changes (COVID from 2020 onwards), there is also a 'can-o-worms' factor in the rush to knock out 7bn vaccines (BillGates), without the normal rigours of due process.

Q. Digital ID's for everyone?
Is there a plan for everyone to be 'pushed' into having a new type of universal persistant DigitalID?

A. YES, clearly - via id2020.org and it's projects, partners and programs.
Within this main topic (the title of the thread) are sub-CTs incude:

i) that the majority of people aren't aware of the project's existance, it's scope, ambitions and reach.

ii) that the majority of people (of the few who are actually aware of the program) simply don't understand it (as proven here), it's workings, functionality i.e. 'it's form' or it's most likely, final realisation.

iii) that the majority of people haven't even considered it's implications, it is being pushed as only 'good' thing, only. There has been zero debate as to if it's value or end results is only 'good thing'. It has (both) plus and minus aspects.

additionally...
iv) there are many that conspire to 'attach' the already clear published goals (of id2020.org and it's projects), to other wild, dramtic, non-related sci-fi theories, that have no basis. Lies infact. Not even worthy of responding to. This shoud be considered topic diversion and distortion of a very simple question (as per topic), of which hasn't yet been answered.

In balance this project has both good and negative aspects. But as people are not aware, don't understand it, or it's implications, and with added diversion, these simple questions aren't even being considered.

If there is any type of combo vaccine, that uses any type of unique identifer data mark in the near future, it will simply be too late to object to it.

[Deleted User]

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

LOL, not only did you fail to answer the question set to you, you made a complete dodge of it.

There was a question in there?

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Then to round it off, you've reverted back to (your own) theory about skygods woo-woo sci-fi and such like.

But it's not my theory, it's yours. I'm not sure why you are lying and saying that it's my theory...

It's what you believe. Your theory is based on your belief in a supernatural prophesy.
You just won't admit it because you are very dishonest.

I don't believe the bible predicted anything. I don't believe there is any such thing as a supernatural prediction.
I don't believe that any of the things you are talking about are "the mark of the beast".
I also don't believe most of your claims and speculation.

See how easy it is to state your beliefs clearly.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

My theory does not require such speculation, it's based on actual proven science and demonstration of such programs of Digital ID.

But as we've shown, you are distorting things and misrepresenting things so they can satisfy your belief in a supernatural prophesy.

4068ac1elhodqr

King Mob wrote: »

But it's not my theory, it's yours. I'm not sure why you are lying and saying that it's my theory....

But. it's. not. my. theory, so. then. it. must. only. be. yours.
As 'you' keep raising it, comprende???

Clearly it's a diversion tactic for you to keep distorting the actions of id2020 and attaching it to 'le supernatural'
This isn't required, their own manifesto is sufficent all in itself.

'My theory is based upon the agenda of id2020.org', and it's partners, programs and associations. Also what they state themselves as the push for Digital ID's for everyone. It does not need any supplimentary theory, even if such a thing did exists elsewhere, it's no longer required.

Dohnjoe

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

And I'll also ask the questions again

If you look up id2020.org and all of its programs the 'Digital ID' concept is a clear. Is that all nonsense in your view?

I have already answered this question. But to address again, yes it's clear, it's a global digital ID project/program, and no I don't think it's "all nonsense".

And back to my questions, for the 5th or 6th time

If I look up digital ID and conspiracy theories I find a lot of religious prophecy, book of revelations stuff...

Is that all nonsense? Or do you share any of those beliefs?

4068ac1elhodqr

Dohnjoe wrote: »

I have already answered this question. But to address again, yes it's clear, it's a global digital ID project/program, and no I don't think it's "all nonsense".

Precisely.

But many/majority of people may not agree that it is, many more wouldn't even of heard of them, amazing considering their potential global scope.

Even then, they wouldn't have a clue as to what form or realisation this DigitalID would most likely take.
Nor any understanding to the campaign size, the partners founders and sponsors.
The technological/biological factors, azure blockchain, the linked product patents and progress of embodiments.
Nor the real world implications and so on etc...

Now, it may turn out to just reach the 1.1bn (upto 1.8bn)
as intended pre-2030 (as set out under Sustainable Development Goal 16.9).

Or, it may ride on the back of COVID19, and the B'Gates desire for 7bn vaccines (v1.0) to arms and all within 18mths,
with a small risk or manditory distribution. (These are 'theory expansion' factors).

Dohnjoe wrote: »

If I look up digital ID and conspiracy theories I find a lot of religious prophecy, book of revelations stuff...

You may well do, and yes much of it would be false, as often uses the 'microchip' pretext, which is a false agenda (and thus route to a clever counter-agenda).

No 'chip' features anywhere in the latest digital embodiment marks, a passive QDT has no self-processing capability whatsoever. The patent describes it use perfectly well.

As said I have no need for additional (theories), nor thus any view on them.
The actual source i.e. the horses mouth is id2020 itself.

Cheerful Spring2

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Most of your first paragraph is entirely meaningless in this context (ufos, trump and so on) and bears no relevance, same goes for the 9/11 stuff. All totally off topic and honestly has no place here.

There are various conspiracies at play in regards to 'Digital ID's for everyone'.

I have outlined these all before, and in light of recent global changes (COVID from 2020 onwards), there is also a 'can-o-worms' factor in the rush to knock out 7bn vaccines (BillGates), without the normal rigours of due process.
Q. Digital ID's for everyone?
Is there a plan for everyone to be 'pushed' into having a new type of universal persistant DigitalID?

A. YES, clearly - via id2020.org and it's projects, partners and programs.
Within this main topic (the title of the thread) are sub-CTs incude:

i) that the majority of people aren't aware of the project's existance, it's scope, ambitions and reach.

ii) that the majority of people (of the few who are actually aware of the program) simply don't understand it (as proven here), it's workings, functionality i.e. 'it's form' or it's most likely, final realisation.

iii) that the majority of people haven't even considered it's implications, it is being pushed as only 'good' thing, only. There has been zero debate as to if it's value or end results is only 'good thing'. It has (both) plus and minus aspects.

additionally...
iv) there are many that conspire to 'attach' the already clear published goals (of id2020.org and it's projects), to other wild, dramtic, non-related sci-fi theories, that have no basis. Lies infact. Not even worthy of responding to. This shoud be considered topic diversion and distortion of a very simple question (as per topic), of which hasn't yet been answered.

In balance this project has both good and negative aspects. But as people are not aware, don't understand it, or it's implications, and with added diversion, these simple questions aren't even being considered.

If there is any type of combo vaccine, that uses any type of unique identifer data mark in the near future, it will simply be too late to object to it.

We already live in a digital world. The majority of the world carries around with them least one item of digital identification, it will have your picture, your address and various other details. I don’t think human beings are numb to what digital ID is the understand the concept.

What scares you they pushing for a digital form of ID that removes the need for multiple digital systems? Are Am I Right in saying this is true? This one ID links up to one controlled database somewhere?

I will say the majority of people are not aware of many things, it does not mean the people be in the dark for long. They’re going to notice, the banks, hospitals, government bodies’ rolling out a one fits all digital ID for everyone to use. Something that big will be noticed immediately. I think the education will be everywhere if something like this ever comes about. People will be better informed if there a rollout and lot more people will be making new threads discussing it and you’ll be reading the negatives and positives online.

I not sure I agree with you people have not thought about the possibility of misuse. You have. So there likely many others who have also as well in public life.

The issue for me is do you want your life controlled by a one fits all digital ID- what happens if the use it for credit score like China does where you have to obey the rules online and be a good citizen and not voice displeasure about things. You basically become a robot then with no free will. A digital ID in the body will be something else entirely and that not coming out any time soon. I think there lot of privacy concerns already and there is always people who will take advantage of it though.

Dohnjoe

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Precisely.

You asked a question, I answered it (for a second time)

Once again, you didn't address my question

I'll simplify questions:

Do you believe the "devil" is involved with digital ID?

Do you believe that the bible predicted aspects of digital ID?

One of the commandments in the bible is to be honest correct? Is dodging and evading questions a type of dishonesty, or is it allowed?

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Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

We already live in a digital world. The majority of the world carries around with them least one item of digital identification, it will have your picture, your address and various other details. I don’t think human beings are numb to what digital ID is the understand the concept.

What scares you they pushing for a digital form of ID that removes the need for multiple digital systems? Are Am I Right in saying this is true? This one ID links up to one controlled database somewhere?

I will say the majority of people are not aware of many things, it does not mean the people be in the dark for long. They’re going to notice, the banks, hospitals, government bodies’ rolling out a one fits all digital ID for everyone to use. Something that big will be noticed immediately. I think the education will be everywhere if something like this ever comes about. People will be better informed if there a rollout and lot more people will be making new threads discussing it and you’ll be reading the negatives and positives online.

I not sure I agree with you people have not thought about the possibility of misuse. You have. So there likely many others who have also as well in public life.

The issue for me is do you want your life controlled by a one fits all digital ID- what happens if the use it for credit score like China does where you have to obey the rules online and be a good citizen and not voice displeasure about things. You basically become a robot then with no free will. A digital ID in the body will be something else entirely and that not coming out any time soon. I think there lot of privacy concerns already and there is always people who will take advantage of it though.

Can agree with much of that, China is a perfect example (perhaps closer would be the folks that got serial numbers stamped back in the 40's).
Folks aware of it, have little to be scared of. For the more holy type folks, who knows, they might actually welcome this, if they view it as some sort of fulfilment.

Even then China relies wholly on FRS's which are very tame, compared to the potential of a fully-fledged DigitalID system (x16 biometrics and any/all user data digitised), then 'paired' with a UnID (unique serial identifer), compressed 16kb, encrypted and stored on an Azure cloud db (blockchain won't always be un-hackable btw).

The removes the need for any other paper/card even national IDs (is a global program). Removes the need for cash, instantly. Removes any concept of privacy and so on. China factor x100, with it's postive and negtive factors (both multiplied).

Subtle embodiment technology already exists now, and it's perfect vehicle is actually the 7billion doses of vaccine coming within 18mths.

4068ac1elhodqr

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Do you believe the "devil" is involved with digital ID?

id2020.org are involved with DigitalID's, (are 'they' the divil, who knows lol), and that simply is all there is to consider here.
Anything else is a purposefuly distraction, distortion, diversion.

Cheerful Spring2

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Can agree with much of that, China is a perfect example (perhaps closer would be the folks that got serial numbers stamped back in the 40's).
Folks aware of it, have little to be scared of. For the more holy type folks, who knows, they might actually welcome this, if they view it as some sort of fulfilment.

Even then China relies wholly on FRS's which are very tame, compared to the potential of a fully-fledged DigitalID system (x16 biometrics and any/all user data digitised), then 'paired' with a UnID (unique serial identifer), compressed 16kb, encrypted and stored on an Azure cloud db (blockchain won't always be un-hackable btw).

The removes the need for any other paper/card even national IDs (is a global program). Removes the need for cash, instantly. Removes any concept of privacy and so on. China factor x100, with it's postive and negtive factors (both multiplied).

Subtle embodiment technology already exists now, and it's perfect vehicle is actually the 7billion doses of vaccine coming within 18mths.

We in a limited style of censorship now where corporations are pulling down conspiracy video. This what China does. Take down any negative videos about their government. This is the first step next it be anything that does agree with the status quo.

[Deleted User]

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

But. it's. not. my. theory, so. then. it. must. only. be. yours.
As 'you' keep raising it, comprende???

Ok then. If that's the case, please say that you don't believe that the bible made this prophesy and you don't believe all this stuff is "the mark of the beast".
It's that simple.

But you won't say that. We all know why.

Dohnjoe

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

id2020.org are involved with DigitalID's, (are 'they' the divil, who knows lol), and that simply is all there is to consider here.

Evaded the questions again, so I'll ask again.

Do you believe the "devil" is involved with digital ID?

Do you believe that the bible predicted aspects of digital ID?

Every time you avoid questions like these it speaks volumes.

ohnonotgmail

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

But. it's. not. my. theory, so. then. it. must. only. be. yours.
As 'you' keep raising it, comprende???

Clearly it's a diversion tactic for you to keep distorting the actions of id2020 and attaching it to 'le supernatural'
This isn't required, their own manifesto is sufficent all in itself.

i would be happy to quote your posts in the christianity forum where you make the link between the two to jog your memory if that helps.

Timberrrrrrrr

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i would be happy to quote your posts in the christianity forum where you make the link between the two to jog your memory if that helps.

To coin a phrase he himself has used there

As Joseph Goebbels used to say "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".

koutoubia

https://extra.ie/2020/05/09/news/world-news/first-coronavirus-free-passport-flight-to-canary-islands-booked-for-july

Well whatever you believe about digital implants if that trial is succesfull you are gonna start needing a digital health passport to travel to the Canaries or possibly Spain.
And I get the 'If you have nothing to hide ....' but if thats in the hands of the Dept of health *shudders*

And thats before we even start to consider free travel within the EU.