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Why are there still so many flights in/out of Ireland?

Sheep Shagger

Irish Times saying there were still 60 flights a day last weekekd in and out of Dublin airport (on a normal bank holiday weekend it would be 450).

Even during the week there seems to be a dozen or so daily arriving.

https://www.dublinairport.com/flight-information/live-arrivals

Why are there still that many flights does anyone know?

Surely any family needing to return home would have done so by now,I would think at this stage it should be down to a much lower number of flights a week to facilitate 'essential' travel.

How are we supposed to keep a lid on the virus if that many people are still coming in to the country, we also know many are not providing quarantine information either - seems like we are pissing in the wind?

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Falthyron

Planes don't only bring people...

biko

Right now

[Deleted User]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2oPk20OHBE

Charlie19

Peeps are flocking in for the good weather.

Charlie19

biko wrote: »

Right now

What's the difference between the yellow and blue planes?

Sheep Shagger

Falthyron wrote: »

Planes don't only bring people...

True but these are passenger flights.

yerwanthere123

Cargo is a thing.

Jizique

Charlie19 wrote: »

What's the difference between the yellow and blue planes?

BLue is airport

freshpopcorn

I read the tittle fast and thought it said fights. I was preparing myself for a bare knuckle boxing thread!

[Deleted User]

There’s not much point in keeping flights from the UK out until we can control our land border with them.

Del2005

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

True but these are passenger flights.

They are passenger planes without passengers but with the holds full of cargo, some airlinesareevenremovingtheseats. Aer Lingus are flying with 2 crews to the USA so they can turn around without a crew needing to stay over.

flazio

Mainly it's essential travel and mainly it's Irish citizens only.
If they present to health services with symptoms then contact tracing should be straightforward enough.
Closing air and sea ports completely is pointless, for one thing there are over 200 boreens, motorways and primary roads into Ireland from the UK occupied North, even in this crisis it'd be too big of a political hot potato to just close them all.

ongarite

The vast majority of MNC are still running full operations here and around the world.
They need constant supply of parts for servicing and repair.
Most of these parts will travel in the cargo hold of passenger flights.
In the company I work for, they fly San Francisco to Dublin or San Jose to Amsterdam on Aer Lingus flight, Amsterdam to Dublin.

Shutting down these routes means suspending production of products and goods that people may rely to save their life, work from home, etc...

Sheep Shagger

The need for cargo flights make sense.

Looking at the DAA website these seem like passenger flights, am not saying close the borders completely but seems to still be a high number given citizens are under lockdown.

There were 2 inbound flights from Amsterdam today for example?

If you could trust people to quarantine on arrival but I wouldn't be so sure.

Charlie19

Jizique wrote: »

BLue is airport

There is blue planes mid Atlantic?

Gadgetman496

Charlie19 wrote: »

There is blue planes mid Atlantic?

That's a sea plane

nsa0bupkd3948x

Charlie19 wrote: »

There is blue planes mid Atlantic?

It means they are getting picked up by satellite receivers and not land based receivers

Loozer

What's going to happen now with the UK imposing quarantine except from Ireland?

Will flights be connecting through Ireland to avoid it

Pawwed Rig

Planes have to fly or else they need to go into storage. Storage is expensive. Additionally pilots need to have airtime to keep up their certification.

AndyBoBandy

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Looking at the DAA website these seem like passenger flights.

How do you know the flights were carrying passengers? I don’t think DAA will publish this information. The majority of Air cargo in/out of Ireland would travel on passenger flights.

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

There were 2 inbound flights from Amsterdam today for example?

Yes, Schipol is one of the busiest hubs in Europe (if not the world), so a lot of freight would arrive there, and need an onward connection to Ireland. As would passengers coming from all reaches of the world.

International movement of people is heavily impacted during a pandemic, but it doesn’t stop.

Sheep Shagger

There are still flights on the airline apps available for sale so it's not only cargo coming in...

Amirani

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

The need for cargo flights make sense.

Looking at the DAA website these seem like passenger flights, am not saying close the borders completely but seems to still be a high number given citizens are under lockdown.

There were 2 inbound flights from Amsterdam today for example?

If you could trust people to quarantine on arrival but I wouldn't be so sure.

Much of our cargo comes in on passenger planes in normal times. As was said, we normally have 450 planes coming in each, many of them with a hold full of cargo.

There isn't just hundreds of cargo-only planes sitting available, so it's obvious you'd need to continue many of the passenger flights to keep it coming in.

keynes

From an article on RTE website:

"The Department of Justice confirmed that over 670 passengers - 34% - who arrived at Dublin Airport over a six-day period did not complete the form."

So that's 1971 passengers through Dublin airport in 6 days. I'm sorry, but it's simply untrue to say that these mainly constitute "cargo."

Sheep Shagger

If these are all cargo flights (which they are not) then why can you still book flights as a passenger on various airline apps?

If flights are still needed for 'essential' travel then we should be down to a single digit number per week.

Hamsterchops

Mr.S wrote: »

Cargo goes on passenger flights.

There are mostly flights to the UK still happening (and even that, it's only a few) and then a few others destinations. The flights are essentially empty* and are there to facilitate essential travel. No one is flying for tourism.

*Belfast to London is a very odd exception.

Belfast to London is an internal UK flight, which may explain the fullness of passengers?

Sheep Shagger

There's a FR flight from Birmingham about to land in Dublin.

Really hope it's full of cargo with no passengers....

AndyBoBandy

Passenger travel in/out of Ireland is not banned, so yes, you can still book a flight to/from Ireland.

People working in ESSENTIAL services still need to travel around the world.

I have a team of engineers that are flying around globally still. Including to/from Ireland.

If they couldn’t travel here, we would be seeing rolling blackouts throughout the country, therefore they are deemed Essential. Those guys are about .0001% of the total essential personnel that still need to get in/out of countries, hence passenger flights still need to operate.

Sheep Shagger

I never said stop passenger flights but we should be stringent on who can use them, otherwise it's like pissing in the wind.

Are they checking those boarding are actually essential- they should have to produce a letter or no boarding. Similar to how you can be pulled over in a car to produce a letter.

The fact is 2k people came into Dublin airport last week and 600 of those did not provide quarantine information...why would anyone withhold that information?

Only takes one to have the virus...

[Deleted User]

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Passenger travel in/out of Ireland is not banned, so yes, you can still book a flight to/from Ireland.

People working in ESSENTIAL services still need to travel around the world.

I have a team of engineers that are flying around globally still. Including to/from Ireland.

If they couldn’t travel here, we would be seeing rolling blackouts throughout the country, therefore they are deemed Essential. Those guys are about .0001% of the total essential personnel that still need to get in/out of countries, hence passenger flights still need to operate.

Essential essential engineers or essential to making you money engineers?

Loozer

I haven't heard of engineers saving us from rolling blackouts atm?

What's that all about