joebloggs32 wrote: » There is the voice of reason from the first girl. She hasn't listened to the noise and waffle from the ISSU. The validity of their survey is quite shaky.
man_no_plan wrote: » All this talk about predicted grades in the UK. They do their actual exams afterwards. That's the point everyone seems to miss. It's not predicted grades no exams.
acequion wrote: » Unions are the official voice of the teachers. But it's the responsibility of every single teacher to make sure his voice is part of that official voice.
Random sample wrote: » At what stage of the year we’re they done? If assessments have taken place since those grades were given, then they would have to be taken into account too.
Choochtown wrote: » Why can't every student who has an under-subscribed 3rd level course as their 1st choice on their CAO form be just accepted onto that course? This would take a substantial percentage of students out of the predicted grades circus and avoid students accessing information that tells them they were ranked 29th out of 30 as that information would no longer exist. The points system is just to sort out who gets what course (supply and demand) so it's not really relevant if an undersubscribed 3rd level course (of which there are many) requires 500 points or 100.
Millionaire only not wrote: » November is application time for UCAS
Greensoup wrote: » I’m still trying to get my head around the class ranking. You will have a lot of students around H4-H5 who are all similar ability wise and work wise. How do you rank them...why would you say this lad is ranked 14th and this one 19th in the class when there is nothing really between them.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » When the Dept apply the curve won't the students from 14-19 get the same grade anyway? If your school has a history of a bunch of students getting H4-H5 then the Dept will see this historically and apply same?
Greensoup wrote: » Not necessarily so...if you have 10 H4s in your group and 6 of them are 60-62% marks. To suit Bell curve it might only give 8 H4s that means 2 of these 6 lads drop to H5 so it was the 2 you ranked lowest that drop.....even though there was 1% between them. This could be all crap by me so feel free to call it wrong.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » The bell curve cud see grades go up or down, yes. But that would happen if they sat the exam or were assessed. The ranking list we give would probably carry more weight that estimated grade as they might just take the list and apply to the schools historical curve for the last five years.
Ireland0101 wrote: » Except this is the product of months of discussion. Let's be honest here, the department knew all along that holding state exams this year was just not going to happen. The political pressure forced the department to come clean about this perhaps sooner than anticipated. If you think the likes of FF had any bearing on this decision you are compleltely wrong. You don't pull together a very solid plan for predictive grading overnight. Whilst not faultless, it's admirable much time has gone into this. This wasn't some impetuous decision.
rainbowtrout wrote: » Honestly, who are you shilling for?
rainbowtrout wrote: » Really? It looks like a cut and paste job from the UK version of predicted gradeshttps://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/883150/Summer_2020_grades_for_GCSE_AS_A_level_guidance_for_teachers_students_parents_UPDATED_05MAY2020_FINAL.pdf Honestly, who are you shilling for?
Newbie20 wrote: » Anyone know if students are still allowed to change level? I have a student that had been struggling all year, bone lazy, didn’t engage with the work online at all. He contacted me once to say that he would drop down. I told him to check with career guidance teacher first to make sure he wouldn’t be snookering himself in term of college. I never heard back from him after, not sure he followed through. He would definitely be best off dropping, no doubt about that but am I now in a position that I can’t say anything / make any recommendations. Or even if I was allowed to would it be too late anyway?
spurious wrote: » The bell curve is not applied on a per school basis. Is it being proposed that a school's results would mirror last year's? That really is daft.
Millionaire only not wrote: » I believe the teachers will do a good job , but it is time to reform ths exam and stop having stressed out students - 40/50% from continuous assessment and rest from exam . The work rate would be more consistent from students and the ones that don’t work there is a history to show it . This won’t be last outbreak of a deadly virus .
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » Last 3 years
spurious wrote: » Still daft. Who thinks these things up?
Millionaire only not wrote: » The flip side of that is if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for us .
History Queen wrote: » The Dept have a list of FAQ on their website now: https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/d8920c-leaving-cert-2020/?referrer=/leavingcertificate/ Among my many concerns is the response to the following: Q15. Does national standardisation mean that if I attend a school where students traditionally have higher performance levels, my mark is likely to be moved up by the Department? And if I attend a school where performance tends to be lower, my mark may be moved down? Please see attached screenshot.... maybe I'm oversensitive but that reads as selling teachers out to me anyway, in otherwords if you are not treated fairly that's your teacher's fault.
