Adam9213 wrote: » There's probably an invasion coming along any day now, they can conveniently push the dead children killed by UK and British forces back to the last 5 minutes of news where everyone has already flicked over to the Simpsons once they've heard about the 90 year olds who can barely walk tragically taken by the corona virus.
Adam9213 wrote: » A conspiracy theory is any theory that goes against the status quo, in a way we we are all conspiracy theorists. Have you ever held an opinion that is different to the status quo? About a war? An Invasion? An assasination? Something you believe is happening in a country? endless things I could come up with if you have a different theory to any of that stuff that would make you a conspiracy theorist as well, or do you believe everything you hear on the news? Every reason the government says they have for doing something? Or do you just believe everything you see? Back when in people in Ireland used to claim to claim the British intelligence services were using loyalists to carry out assassinations on their behalf they were called conspiracy theorists, what are they called now psychics? if you have education on a subject conspiracy theories aren't far fetched crazy ideas they are logical ideas on things that are happening in the world.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Conspiracies, corruption, collusion, etc happen on a regular basis "Conspiracy theorists" aren't really interested in that stuff, they gravitate towards the more far-fetched theories, usually underpinned by a paranoia of authority/establishment and a cynical world view that X government or entity are behind certain events.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » It was working people who handed over cash to pay for this reckless gambling.
Dohnjoe wrote: » The 2008 financial crisis was caused by a large number of factors, all underpinned by "bubble thinking", the notion that house prices wouldn't significantly drop. It wasn't a "conspiracy" as such, just a severe failing on many levels, including on the level of regulators, rating agencies, financial institutions, shadow banking, government, lenders, buyers, public. In the US, politicians, on both sides, universally rejected the bailout, they had little appetite to throw cash at over-leveraged, under-capitalised banks, no one did. Few tears were shed when Lehman's went under. But when the entire system came under threat, i.e. that their constituents might not be able to withdraw money from ATMs for their weekly groceries, that's when they had no option but to take action, and vote for the bailout. For TARP, taxpayers money was lent to banks to fund their intraday activity (and lack of liquidity), the banks paid this back with interest. At the end, the taxpayers actually made a small profit. Old testament justice is great and all, but the problem had to be dealt with. Pointing fingers and punishing people on a sinking ship is not going to stop the ship sinking. Austerity, controversial, whatever but in a country like Greece, where they cooked the books for years, tax-dodging was/is a national sport and public servants were retiring in their 40's - it was a potential solution, rather than neverending spending and defaults-ville As always there were/are individual corrupt politicians, unethical & greedy CEO's, irresponsible lenders/borrowers, I know quite a few people who bought houses they clearly couldn't afford. But in your world view it's all some big black and white "master plan" by nefarious players, like "Secret Nazi's", and the "elite" who all magically work together to cause financial crises, assassinate presidents and blow up the Twin Towers. Cool, but your limited imagination is, as demonstrated so many times, not representative of reality.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Always throw in that dig at the end. Not my fault you don’t understand pre-war Nazis escaped and took their wealth with them to other countries around the world. Its common knowledge there was an underground Nazi SS network helping former high-ranking Nazis escape to South America. They removed their SS uniform and used their wealth to buy mansion homes in South American and invested in the world stock market and likely invested in Germany economy after the fall of the Wall in East Germany. It’s a complicated backstory that you never followed, learned and watched.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Oh I understand very well, somehow you came across some actual information, perhaps accidentally watched the history channel for 10 minutes and discovered the widely known fact that certain Nazi's fled Germany after the war.. Annd since your personal "Eureka" moment you've decided that offspring of those Nazi's have clubbed together to pull off 911 and kill JFK.. Perfectly normal rational thinking going on there
The Nal wrote: » I love Cheerfuls "research". A quick google and a copy and paste, as above, and then a link dump to the Daily Mirror. "this stuff is too deep for you" Lol
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » When you stuck in the mind-set the official story correct, than nothing I say here makes sense, I have moved beyond that point. National security measures were removed to facilitate this operation on the day. There plenty of evidence CIA protected the 19 up to the day of the operation. We have levels here. The planes hijacked and another operation rigging the buildings to bring them down on 9/11 The level of planning to blow up buildings is beyond Al Qaeda. We have another level here at play. I open to who was behind it. It was likely some international network that’s in the background that got wind of this operation from the middle east was about to happen, and they used it to achieve their own agenda. I surmise there may be some post-war Nazi financiers involved in the operation. I not saying there 100 percent proof that’s the case, but i come at it with a believe building seven was taken down on 9/11 by demolition.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » When you stuck in the mind-set the official story correct
Dohnjoe wrote: » You conjure up changeable stories in your head, on the fly, and decide that it's world history. In your imaginary world, the "powers-that-be" constantly do the same thing, and you're somehow in competition with these "scripts" and "official stories". It's a completely mental way of thinking
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Go back ten years ago
Dohnjoe wrote: » Again, you believe "secret Nazi's" assassinated the US president and carried out the most significant terrorist attack in the 21st century. You believe this because you can "imagine" it in your head. Cool, but it's the kind of thing you'd hear in a mental asylum.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I believe far right CIA operatives and the Mob killed JFK. I have seen some evidence the CIA hired a Nazi assassin as one shooter on the day. The CIA recruited him after WW2. I have seen some evidence a fascist corporation in Switzerland, with links to the Nazi underground played a role. They move assets around in this hidden world of commerce through dummy companies and sometimes even the CIA uses the network.
Dohnjoe wrote: » Yeah, you believe this stuff until you change your mind next week or next month and invent something new. You actually believe that history revolves around whatever comes into your head, which is completely irrational.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » The US government lying to you about this event and there protecting their ass still. They don’t want the global public to know the real truth here, the CIA played a role in murdering a US President in broad daylight.,
Dohnjoe wrote: » And, according to you; LBJ, Cuban exiles, the FBI, the Mafia, Zapruder, Willis and now Nazi's.. Question is, who didn't murder JFK, I think that list is shorter..
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Listing groups. When likely just individuals who played a part. There isn’t hundreds of people protecting the secret when it happened. You talking about 30 or 40 people?, in a country of 360 million nothing. It just they sat at the top of the food chain, and they directed the lower end teams to carry out the hit. CIA has carried out multiple operations in secret and people never talked about it, you may have one or two whistlebowers now an again who talk.
Dohnjoe wrote: » All of a sudden you don't sound so sure.. You create your own facts, so why not just create your own certainty. 100% it was LBJ, Mafia, CIA, Cuban exiles, etc. There, easy.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I think
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I believe far right CIA operatives and the Mob killed JFK. I have seen some evidence the CIA hired a Nazi assassin as one shooter on the day. The CIA recruited him after WW2.
The Nal wrote: » You've heard it was claimed in a book a couple of years ago, which it wasn't (he wasnt a shooter), but now thats what you believe. Without having read the book. The gullibility is staggering.
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » I not naïve to believe Oswald acted alone. Debunkers for years claimed Oswald did not know David Ferrie. Then a researcher found a lost picture of them together in a boot camp when Oswald was a boyish young man. We now have solid proof they knew each other and debunkers claims are false. Oswald does not end up in a CIA base if he not involved intelligence. You also falsely claimed the Oswald did not phone from the Jail another lie when the records show he did try to phone from the Jail. All i know is Oswald did not act alone that day, there was others, and who they are people speculate. I open to all info about them.,
Dohnjoe wrote: » "No way Oswald acted alone!" - Okay so who killed JFK? "The Mafia, CIA, LBJ, FBI, Cuban Exiles, that guy who shot that film, Nazi's, Mossad, Teamsters, Obama, The Hamburgler..."
Dohnjoe wrote: » " - Okay so who killed JFK?
Cheerful Spring2 wrote: » Why was there a man up in the grassy knoll flashing a fake badge minutes after the Shooting? That's evidence there was a backup up helping the shooter. Many reported smelling gunpowder near the bushes and near the road, that's evidence of shots fired close by. There evidence of a crack in the front windshield of the car. Someone was firing from over near the bridge or near the hedges. Gov Connelly doctor on tape even said he doesn't believe one bullet caused all those injuries. The magic bullet not even that deformed to be hitting bone and tissue. There a few grains missing not enough to have inflicted injuries to two men.
