Millionaire only not wrote: » What’s the problem, students have loads of tests done every parent/teacher meeting I’ve even at there’s a log on results . It’s black and white . At least there’s time to get out results get them to college / accommodation. And move on to teaching next years bunch . It was never going to be easy what ever they went .
km79 wrote: » I wonder will he make much difference to college start times I imagine they will still stick with end of September for safety reasons And will hardly want all years back together
Chaya Fresh Shoehorn wrote: » Exams already in database - this is quite a blinkered view I think. Not showing up for house exams is fairly common in some schools. Students often take the exam weeks off to work. Or just CBA (if you excuse the pun). It would have been common for circa 20% of students in my school to reach LC with just one, or sometimes no house exams sat. The same school corrects their own mocks, and minority subjects like Phys/Chem have to set their own papers.
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » Who said anything about predicting? A grade is generated from the results available..the exact ‘equation’ of how will presumably be announced tomorrow.I very much doubt any teacher or principal will be predicting anything.
mirrorwall14 wrote: » Is anyone else just feeling deflated? I killed myself converting resources for online learning, chasing students, recording demonstrations etc etc. It’s been absolutely exhausting and never-ending with no childcare and working from home. The first chink was the change of language by the department.. the practicals were awarded 100%. Then the rumours of cancelling the junior cert. Then ruining our Easter holidays and destroying the engagement we were fighting for. The utter chaos for students and staff since in JC-our school STILL have not told our JC what is happening and when their summer assessments take place. Nor were we allowed do what we wanted to in maths for that calculation. Board meeting finally tonight so hopefully they’ll at least get told tomorrow Then publishing last Friday and the late late show. And all this week media coverage. The leaking of the entire thing to the press. So here we sit. Waiting the hammer blow on us deciding how to rank our students. Dealing with angry, upset, frustrated, disappointed students and parents. Defending decisions. I have a zoom class scheduled tomorrow afternoon. No point now. And we all found out from the media. Again. I just want to be back in school. Give me a chaotic busy week of normality please
OttoPilot wrote: » At the risk of sounding classist, will schools be weighted by their historical results? For example a kid getting Bs in a school in a better school would probably get more than a kid getting Bs in a really poor school.
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » Any student who has never sat a house exam in senior cycle probably ain’t bothered either way. I’m obviously not referring to the tiny number of students for whom illness was an issue.
Treppen wrote: » Not sure what you mean, both B's in both schools are worth the same points!
Multipass wrote: » I’m so ashamed of my country, I hope my son leaves and gets into a college abroad, I really do. Hysterical cowards in charge of us.
happywithlife wrote: » If as it seems PG are going ahead what do I about my student who genuinely has been a H2 all a long and aiming for a H1 - query as to whether she'd pull it off or not. BUT she was incredibly sick during the mocks. Did sit them but terrible (for her) results - across multiple exams. She got a H4 for me. If mocks feature for her PG it'll devaste her. She's already stressed at the thoughts of it and no reassurance I can give her. Then there's the student who didn't sit the mocks, or the xmas Nov test now that I think of it ...She'd have shown for the actual exam in June (traditionally) - very little formal assessments for her beyond class tests Then we have coursework submitted already. Since October. Is that going to factor into PG? How? Why is that fair?
Millionaire only not wrote: » Teachers will go into school and if they have interest in there students , they’ll know who was H 1 2 3 ! they won’t fail anyone and rightly so because that lad or lassie might just go on to do a lot better and maybe a lot better than the students that got there H1’s . school might not suit him/her. He/she may just think a lot more of his/her teacher many year’s from now . So let everyone get on with it , give the students a chance to prove themselves and after that it’s there own hard luck .
happywithlife wrote: » If as it seems PG are going ahead what do I about my student who genuinely has been a H2 all a long and aiming for a H1 - query as to whether she'd pull it off or not. BUT she was incredibly sick during the mocks. Did sit them but terrible (for her) results - across multiple exams. She got a H4 for me. If mocks feature for her PG it'll devaste her. She's already stressed at the thoughts of it and no reassurance I can give her.
happywithlife wrote: » Then there's the student who didn't sit the mocks, or the xmas Nov test now that I think of it ...She'd have shown for the actual exam in June (traditionally) - very little formal assessments for her beyond class tests Then we have coursework submitted already. Since October. Is that going to factor into PG? How? Why is that fair?
Greensoup wrote: » Posted in wrong thread earlier. I’m guessing they will use the average cao points per subject in each school over last 3-4 years to guide them on your schools usual results. So for example in Biology if the leaving cert results in your school have an average of 65 points over those years well the 2020 biology class will also average out at 65 points. Then your principal/school will send the average results that were recorded on vsware for students 7 subjects and possibly Jc to the state exams commission. They will allocate individual results using these averages and the typical results over last 3 years. When 2020 biology class get results the average will be 65 like the bell curve for the subject in the last 3 years. So you’ll get a few H1s, plenty H3s, H4s etc down to H7. Pretty much the same spread as last few years. Emma o kelly said schools typical results over last 3-4 years could be used as a guide. So really teachers shouldn’t have a lot of input as the results on vsware are already there so it’s up to sec to predict grade. Feel free to call crap on this 😂
CrabRevolution wrote: » I really have to wonder what you think the whole point of exams is? You seem to be under the impression that the results should bear no resemblance to how they actually perform, and everyone should be given high marks so that they feel good. What happens to college admissions when half the country gets 600 points? Giving a student a mark they never earned is the opposite of letting them prove themselves. It's lying to them and rewarding them after they've proven they are incapable.
