Mardy Bum wrote: » Clear your inbox folks. It is about to fill up with emails from 6th years for the first time since March 13th. All will have found the wifi button and their anxiety will have disappeared.
Shn99 wrote: » I have seen tweets like the one attached the past half an hour scrolling through twitter, best of luck to all in dealing with the fallout from it.https://twitter.com/shanebeattynews/status/1258495583351947264?s=21
Spanish Eyes wrote: » Some parents are worse than their LC kids. Honestly the competitiveness and demanding of this and that in a time of chaos and crisis is unreal. We all have to stick together and hope for the best. I don’t see or read of any such angst in other European countries where final exams were cancelled no bother.
rainbowtrout wrote: » What teacher around the country will be willing to write down a fail grade for a student? Whatever about the grade inflation aspect of it, a percentage of students fail every year. Is anyone willing to commit to a fail. No pass in maths, no college for example.
skippy1977 wrote: » Sorry you might be missing my point....I would advise the kids so to ENSURE that no one fails...is the department then going to apply the bell curve....which means that the bottom ranked student that I have given an O6 gets an O7.....OR does every student pass every subject and this year's Leaving Cert have 0% failure rate across all subjects.
rainbowtrout wrote: » No I'm not suggesting anything about your advice to your students, if I have students failing HL in my subject continuously, I will advise that they do OL. But there are a percentage that fail both HL/OL/FL every year no matter what advice is given. If there is say a 2% failure rate in a subject, how can the SEC definitively say that it's your student that should get the fail instead of a student in another school? We've all had students who don't do a tap of work from one end of the year to another. Some of them against all the odds scrape through the OL exam with a D3 or as it is now an O6. But there are also those who live up to their reputation and fail it. If you have a student doing an OL subject who has been getting say 34% in class tests up until recently, are you going to give them the O6 which there was a good chance they would achieve in the LC, or go 'no they never managed a 40 in my class, O7 (and fail) it is. Looking at last years stats, just under 11% failed OL Maths. 7% failed HL and 8% failed foundation. Applying a curve nationally is easy when everyone has sat the same exam and has a specific mark, not easy when each school is sending in a grade. The knock on effect for students failing a subject on a predicted grade is probably far greater than being awarded a H2 instead of a H1
Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: » I would say teachers have no part in the decision making process from here on out. The information required is stored in the database of each school for management to trawl through.
Treppen wrote: » I think you'll just give in your marks to the school management and that'll be that. They'll have a look and 'advise' accordingly based on previous results. Nobody gets a fail. Anyone appeals to the department they'll get back onto the school. School might adjust up but ultimately it'll go back to the Dept. in which case they can use some weird metric to bump them up for an easy life. Resits when do ye reckon?
rainbowtrout wrote: » I doubt any principal is in a position to predict a grade for a student unless they are a teaching principal, based just on marks awarded in summer and christmas exams.
ACitizenErased wrote: » I did my LC last year and to say I'm outraged is an understatement. Teachers are being put in a ridiculous and unnecessary predicament. The department is basically throwing all responsibility to them. Having worked so hard to get my University place last year, and having seen so many of my friends go through tears to get their place, and some who failed, the thought of some people just being handed great results based not on their ability but on other aspects is honestly sickening. Then there's the people who struggle, getting f*ck all. Ridiculous.
ACitizenErased wrote: » How will that effect college admissions? Although maybe the lack of international students next year may balance out and free spaces?
km79 wrote: » I would say you will be very much mistaken This will be pushed back on teachers Like everything else has been Also don’t book the holidays in July or August yet “Under the plan to go to Cabinet, pupils not satisfied with their awarded grades will be given a right of appeal. According to sources, this will take the form of being given the option of sitting written exams later this year or early next year.”
km79 wrote: » Now we get to listen to months of students calling for exams I hope there is a solid solid plan tomorrow for all of this
lulublue22 wrote: » Well exams would have suited us much better. My boy is a good student over all but has really struggled with online learning. Judging by some of the posts from teachers here that equates to a lazy git very reassuring for predictive grades if thats the prevailing attitude.
