rainbowtrout wrote: » It was far easier for other countries to cancel their exams quickly as they have various forms of continuous assessment/coursework in place. We don't have anything like that to fall back on. It is the one major flaw of the Leaving Cert, in that it is all or nothing, so in this once in a lifetime event it is a huge problem.
ricflair7 wrote: » I completely agree with you the media stories have been out of control, but has there really been clarity? I also never asked to see the plans but I am beginning to wonder do they even exist! The start I am referring to is the day the schools were asked to shut, there is people in jobs that have a responsibly to ensure these exams can be run safely and if not alternatives should be used. If you watch the health briefings you will see Tony Holohan has been asked multiple times since the start about state exams or schools and said that their advice was always available but they don’t make decisions. Put yourselves in their shoes, you can’t be expected to study towards an exam that may or not be held. That is unfair, end of. Rainbowtrout- you say if McHugh came out and said “come hell or high water we are running the LC” and had to revert we would be complaining. Have you forgotten Varadkar “by hook or by crook” statement? That seems along those lines. As I’ve said before I understand when the virus was in early stages it was very hard to predict, but other countries (Uk,France) moved quickly to cancel their traditional exams These are unprecedented times for everyone and the argument from the start has been “there’s people dying it’s only a leaving cert” and granted that was a valid argument. But now the time has come to make a call, with a clear plan as to how exams can be held from the point a student leaves a home to the point the student gets home.
Treppen wrote: » Have you read Phase 4 of the Roadmap? Phase 4 (20 July) Opening of crèches, childminders and pre-schools for children of all other workers on a gradually increasing basis Return to work for those who cannot work from home Gradual easing of restrictions for higher risk services (e.g. Hairdressers) Opening of museums, galleries, places of worship How does anybody leave the house, then get home? I think people are tying themselves in knots unnecessarily. Why aren't the Irish Times and Indo pleading for plans so that people can have 'certainty' as to how they are going to go to work, have kids in a creche, have people in museums, galleries, places of worship etc. Just like general elections, there should be an embargo on media reporting 2 months prior to the Leaving Cert. They're a bunch of vultures.
km79 wrote: » Morning papers are going to tell a tale ......
km79 wrote: » If it’s not safe to run the LC in August I think we are facing into a school year of predominantly remote teaching I can hear the calls of next years LCerts for cancellation of exams and predictive grades instead already !
mirrorwall14 wrote: » Announcement Friday you think? Or will they run into next week? Decision seems made now tbh. And I couldn’t see any other reason for the unions needing emergency meetings to discuss last night. The devil is just in the detail now No way can we stand against cancellation either in my opinion. I wouldn’t be willing to anyways. I guess at least we get July back. Which considering we managed to transfer rather than cancel our Kerry trip I’m totally fine with!
Treppen wrote: » When the question on whether or not it was all teachers' fault all along, and they would have gotten away with a leaving cert if it wasn't for those pesky teachers, was put to Mr. km79... He declined to comment. Emma O Kelly... RTE news.
km79 wrote: » I have a short revision exam set for my leaving certs this morning Looks like I won’t have many to correct
mirrorwall14 wrote: » I can stop frantically creating resources. I did actually manage to finish the course remotely in the end. Found some fabulous platforms and have some really nice resources for the fifth years now too. Loving Edpuzzle. And finally put time into quizlets for them too
km79 wrote: » I was lucky (and now it seems unlucky ) in that I had the course finished the week we were closed It’s been TORTURE trying to do revision in it every day I think it’s fair to say my motivation levels have dropped this morning in that regard so can only imagine how the students are feeling
mirrorwall14 wrote: » To be honest I do think there will need to be an evaluation of the normal exam papers for the current fifth years. They’ve missed a lot of class contact time. I know I’m now behind on my course despite killing myself teaching online. And some students haven’t engaged so have missed what I have managed to get done
km79 wrote: » She can catch me on Insta
Treppen wrote: » Whatever you've done with 1st, 2nd, 5th since March 13th... It'll be done again in 2020-2021
Comer1 wrote: » I'm a teacher of a subject that has been doing all project work from September to end of January with only a few weeks teaching before the mocks in the whole year. My current sixth years only has one student who did this subject for JC. So with very little hard evidence to backup any grades I predict, I'm not very happy this morning. I always follow this method in sixth year as my job was to teach, it's the DES's job to assess. As a parent of a very capable, hardworking sixth year, I'm now worried about how this will pan out for her. This leaves so much more up to chance now. The LC might be brutal, but at least it's the same level of brutality for all.
ricflair7 wrote: » The papers have been a joke but unfortunately that is business and I know for a fact there is students spending their days speculating on every article that is published.
Comer1 wrote: » Absolutely not in my class! That would be such a disservice to the ones who engaged. My video tutorials will still be available and they can look those up, otherwise they can fook off!
Mrsmum wrote: » Sounds like a very jaded attitude. The thing is you have absolutely no clue why any pupil is not engaging since you have no clue what their home lives are like. That is their school room now. For lots of children it is a very unsuitable learning environment. Or are you saying there is absolutely no value to being in an actual classroom with a teacher if a video is the very same.
Comer1 wrote: » I do know why, I have a very small class of fifth years and only five have not engaged with the work. I have been in contact them directly and they just didn't bother. Young people need to learn that there are consequences to the decisions they make (unless they are doing LC 2020 of course)
Rosita wrote: » The papers have just reflected the unease from the comments of Varadker on predictive grading on the same day he announced that schools would remain closed until September but didn't see fit to confirm that the LC was going ahead as planned. The previous weekend Simon Harris had said that it was hoped to have the LC students back in May a couple of weeks after it was announced they'd be back in July. I think that would have been far more disconcerting for any students as it implied that the government's plans were built on shifting sands. We're not North Korea. Let the media do their job and lay the blame where appropriate on this occasion.
Treppen wrote: » I think you'll find that you can't put students in a detrimental position with regard to those who didn't/couldn't engage for whatever reason.
