Bass Reeves wrote: » These still were inside from Nov 5th to March 19th. They were on silage only even with some wet silage costs Inc minerals was sub 99c/ day or sub 120 for housing period. Add, dosing, herd test, grass and misc and I still be sub 180 euro in costs.
FeelTheBern wrote: » Out of interest how much time do lads reckon they spend per head in buying cattle - or to buy the ones at the right price like the ones here. I think one of the few benefits with suckers for the part time farmer that I can see is the hidden cost of all the time spent hanging out in Mart’s waiting for value to appear if buying cattle in.
Jjameson wrote: » In an autumn sale I’d average 15 or so per mart. 4 or 5 hours including transportation . But winter spring summer very hard. 4 or 5 perhaps but short sales. You make a valid point.
Jjameson wrote: » You’d have a good turn out of them no doubt. But could you do it on a wet windy February night in Ballygarrett? They were bought cheap, had a bit of compensatory growth, you have dry land I assume which accounts for the cheap wintering? A neighbour here sold black Lima 530 kg €1150 in Carnew Saturday.(a rob). He sold the heavier comrades last October 480kg 1005€. These wold of been 450+ that time. He reckons they didn’t cover the winter.
Bass Reeves wrote: » I bought six Ch end of August last year. They were 2X370 cost 690 euro 2X405 cost 740 2X440 cost 805 4 heaviest are either side of 600 kgs, and the two lighter ones are over 500. Would they average 1200 euro in the mart. 180 euro got them to now handy enough.
Cavanjack wrote: » Summer grazing is a zero margin game and always was. Think you have to be prepared for at least one winter to make anything off them.
Cavanjack wrote: » Maybe, a good 500kg store Limo bought in October for €1050 stored on good silage and out on grass this last 5 weeks should be at least 620kg now. Journal app says this animal should make €1400 now. €150 would surely cover his costs until now I would think.
Jjameson wrote: » So do you suppose any store cattle bought last October shown now and taking the cost of the winter would leave a margin even as nuts as the trade is?
Duke92 wrote: » You’d wonder what’s going on with guys buying stores Kilkenny Mart was nuts the prices that were paid and I don’t think there was one classy animal in it
Jjameson wrote: » There will be no more cuts until early June perhaps?
memorystick wrote: » Should I be optimistic? Started feeding a batch of Fr this week
morphy87 wrote: » I know two men that had over80 cows to go each, both let them out on grass 3 weeks ago, if a lot of cattle were grazed instead of finished out of the will this cause a back log at the end of the year? If 4 Euro is got this year it would be great considering how things went the last few weeks
Bass Reeves wrote: » Lots of lads with cattle in sheds that were due to finish end of May/June left them back out to grass especially cows. While animals that were storish have thrived these hotish cattle left out since 3-4 weeks ago may have suffered setbacks. We might get 4/kg yet in the next 6-8 weeks. If cattle are scarce any bit if a hold now will raise them 30c/kg
Good loser wrote: » My contact told me during the week beef would have been €4 to €4.20 around now if it was not for the virus. Also that cattle are very scarce and that the factories are putting all types of cattle into their feedlots. For what it's worth!!
Bass Reeves wrote: » It down to as simple as this processors will not give winter contracts as long as finishers are willing to take the risk . I think it was in the autumn of 2004 that with slaughter premium going after Christmas that Foyle meats promised a base of a pound/lb or 2.8/kg minimum after Christmas. At the time the beef price was sub 90p/lb or below 2.5/kg. All producers matched it within 2-3 weeks. 10-15 years ago chicken producers were going broke. They looked for contracts. Processors stated it could not happen. Producers closed down sheds as it was not paying and within a year producers put the present system in place where the producer is paid a fixed cost/bird to cover his costs. In reality it should not matter whether you are sending in 10, a hundred or a thousand. Well over 50% of cattle going for slaughter are finished by lads killing less than 20-30 cattle/year. Lads have to just stop gambling.
kk.man wrote: » I see that fillet steak in Supervalu is 34.99 per kilo prior to this week announcements of offers. That is pure greed and the mark up verses the beef price of prime cattle is way off quilter. These outrages beef prices should be exposed by farm organisations in these times giving that supermarkets are creaming in profits.
Jjameson wrote: » The “I can’t believe it’s not beef plan” easy spread real beefplan! A letter was sent to a chap who is a bit on a covid 19 guru on Facebook. Kristopher Sheckleton. I can’t share link but it supposed to be from a disgruntled fearful Liffey meats employee blowing a whistle on serious breaches of public health. But the language, wording and punctuation look a little familiar. Hard to know.
wrangler wrote: » They can't sell the expensive cuts .that's supposed to be what the APS Is for
Jjameson wrote: » I seen that. The wording and style of writing in that letter did look a bit similar to some of the beef plan ranting? Would it be possible that it’s not written by a Liffey meats employee?
kk.man wrote: » There should be no one trying to close a factory at present. The supermarkets are the profiteers now. IMO that fillet was priced at 34.99 for the last number of weeks as beef price was dropping like a stone. Factories harping on about not being able to shift expensive cuts. I know it's a small part of the carcass but that's just gluttony at a time when every element of society is suffering.
