is_that_so wrote: » Most of the red lines for the Greens are doable. If they are not addressed in government they can walk. There is an absence of that concept of political maturity even if some of them just think it's our way or the high road. I can understand their reticence on the grounds of fear and principle but it a good time to show what they can do. In a new election FG will unquestionably rebound off this and FF can gain as well. That means probable lost seats for the Greens and it's better to go down for what you did do than for what you didn't.
Edgware wrote: » How could there possibly be an election in the present circumstances which are likely to prevail into 2021? In any case if the Greens walk away, showing their political immaturity and inability to negotiate a compromise, they should be wiped out at the next election Soc Dems, P.B.P. etc can join them. They have nothing to offer The one positive thing after Dail and Seanad elections is that we don't have to listen to Coppinger whining on.
smurgen wrote: » People have parents in their assuming that the homes are regulated correctly by HIQA, to whom homes pay fees to. I reckon if people had know the lack of planning, preparation, and assessment by HIQA ahead of this pandemic they would have taken family home where possible. As of at least April 19th HIQA had assessors had not gone into homes to assess the preparedness for Covid https://www.rte.ie/amp/1132460/ On April 21st HIQA sent a questionnaire to ask nursing homes about their level of preparedness weeks into the crisis.
Deleted User wrote: » I don’t think that people need HIQA to tell them how well or not a nursing home is run. They can see for themselves. Most are very well run. Some less so. .
McMurphy wrote: » We cannot have a caretaker govt for the foreseeable either. You reckon a ragtag dolly mixture of independents will be brought in to get s govt formation over the line - I'm saying if the greens bail (and that's how it looks to be heading) they are really left with two options. National government incoming?
Edgware wrote: » Never underestimate F.F.s and S.F.s craving for power. S.F. are there still and Martin could do an about turn "strictly in the national interest" of course. "The country needs stability, we all must compromise, S.F has given certain undertakings" etc etc
FrancieBrady wrote: » Jesus, did you read that after you typed it? It took uncover journalists and secret cameras to reveal what was going on in some homes. Stop bending so far over backwards to excuse would you?
Deleted User wrote: » My mother in law, who I was a Carer for, had to go into a nursing home for respite a few years ago, at the suggestion of the hospital where she’d been treated for pneumonia. So, yes. I know what I’m talking about and didn’t need an undercover journalist or secret camera to tell me that her care was not up to the expected level. A report was sent to HIQA.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Which in no way gets away from the fact that there is a lot of stuff that goes on that nobody could be aware of. Have a trawl through RTE's archives and stop blaming the people.
Fann Linn wrote: » The auld 'we all went mad' defence which FG are so fond of.
The Department of Social Protection is expected to reach its spending limit by June, according to parliamentary correspondence sent to Fianna Fáil finance spokesman Michael McGrath. The Minister for Public Expenditure, Paschal Donohoe, said that revised spending estimates for the departments in 2020 were not voted on before the dissolution of the Dáil earlier this year. In the absence of such a vote there is a ceiling on spending in 2020 of 80 per cent of the net amount appropriated in 2019. Mr Donohoe said the ceiling on spending would now be reached in June in the Department of Social Protection, and September in the Department of Health because of exceptional coronavirus-related costs.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » Red-C opinion poll in tomorrow's Sunday Business Post. FG - 35% SF - 27% FF - 14% Indos - 8% Greens - 7% Labour - 3% Soc Dems - 3% Solidarity/PBP/Workers Party/RISE - 2%
Suckit wrote: » Repeat it as many times as you want, the truth is that the same people that realised Varadkar was full of crap the last time, will realise it again when the spin machine is forced to stop. His hero Churchill lost the election after the war, he can try and compare himself to him, but the only real comparison will be that. The loss.
Deleted User wrote: » I think FF need get rid of Micheal Martin. I heard him interviewed in the week and he couldn’t string a sentence together. Mumbling and stumbling. I actually thought that he was ill. FG are doing a great job in very unprecedented times.
efanton wrote: » Maybe because it wasnt there earlier when I looked for it. What we have at the moment is an outline. I genuinely hope they get everything finalised before then, but their past record doesnt say much. Lets hope the pressure is on and they deliver.
Leo was promising 100,000 test per week a month ago despite being advised that it would not be not possible. Last week what was it? about 40k.
Mr Coveney's links to the Keelings family are well known.
McMurphy wrote: » The Examiner reporting that the greens are on the verge of splitting up, they're divided into cliques apparently, with many threatening to go off and become independents if Ryan insists on entering govt. Listening to Catherine Martin yesterday it wouldn't be surprising if it emerges she is leading the heave against it. Michaél, Eamon and Leo are the current leaders of their party's, not so sure that will still be the case come Christmas 2020 I reckon.
[Deleted User] wrote: » So, according to some Leo is doing a solo run while reading from a script prepared by someone else??!!
Deleted User wrote: » So, according to some Leo is doing a solo run while reading from a script prepared by someone else??!!
efanton wrote: » What else could you call it? He refused to divulge the advice given by the health officials on whether restriction could be altered to the rest of the cabinet before giving his address on Friday. Its a really strange way of running a government. Surely the smart thing to do would have as many of the cabinet involved as possible so that nothing is overlooked or forgotten. The only reason a Taoiseach would want to withhold information from his/her cabinet is because they either would not agree, or that the Taoiseach has no confidence or trust in their cabinet. The last Taoiseach that employed that tactic was Brian Cowan. He refused to divulge decisions made and advice given before announcing a complete bailout of all banks and bondholders. We know how that turned out.
markodaly wrote: » Thats lovely and all but again, what do the Greens have to do with FG? There is a Green thread already, perhaps its best suited there. Or.... create a 'Government formation' thread.
efanton wrote: » He refused to divulge the advice given by the health officials on whether restriction could be altered to the rest of the cabinet before giving his address on Friday. Its a really strange way of running a government. Surely the smart thing to do would have as many of the cabinet involved as possible so that nothing is overlooked or forgotten. The only reason a Taoiseach would want to withhold information from his/her cabinet is because they either would not agree, or that the Taoiseach has no confidence or trust in their cabinet. The last Taoiseach that employed that tactic was Brian Cowan. He refused to divulge decisions made and advice given before announcing a complete bailout of all banks and bondholders. We know how that turned out.
markodaly wrote: » So, you were wrong. OK No I was right at the time of posting. I asked why haven't the government published? A hour later and a good few hours after Leo's speech it was. He pays his private PR's guy enough money and has a whole government press office at his disposal, you would think they would have published immediately after the speech, I think he has been clear of late that he wants to get to the point where there is capacity to do 100,000 tests per week by the 18th of May, which is two weeks away yet, so perhaps like your earlier rants, lets hold judgement a bit. But he did not say that it was an aspiration, he promised to deliver that target and set a date for it to be delivered, despite being advised at the time that it was unrealistic. Funny, I read that line word for word on one of those looney left facebook pages. I gave you you the link to the article I quoted from the Independent. Maybe they are having an identity crisis Here it is againhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/lengthy-deliberations-sees-cabinet-sign-off-on-101-day-covid-19-recovery-plan-997283.html In a rare move, ministers were not given the advice from the NPHET ahead of time, with priority given to ensuring that the exact details of the document didn’’t leak before the Taoiseach Leo Varadkar could give his address to the nation, which was not followed by questions from the media.
No I was right at the time of posting. I asked why haven't the government published? A hour later and a good few hours after Leo's speech it was. He pays his private PR's guy enough money and has a whole government press office at his disposal, you would think they would have published immediately after the speech, I think he has been clear of late that he wants to get to the point where there is capacity to do 100,000 tests per week by the 18th of May, which is two weeks away yet, so perhaps like your earlier rants, lets hold judgement a bit. But he did not say that it was an aspiration, he promised to deliver that target and set a date for it to be delivered, despite being advised at the time that it was unrealistic. Funny, I read that line word for word on one of those looney left facebook pages. I gave you you the link to the article I quoted from the Independent. Maybe they are having an identity crisis Here it is againhttps://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/lengthy-deliberations-sees-cabinet-sign-off-on-101-day-covid-19-recovery-plan-997283.html In a rare move, ministers were not given the advice from the NPHET ahead of time, with priority given to ensuring that the exact details of the document didn’’t leak before the Taoiseach Leo Varadkar could give his address to the nation, which was not followed by questions from the media.
I think he has been clear of late that he wants to get to the point where there is capacity to do 100,000 tests per week by the 18th of May, which is two weeks away yet, so perhaps like your earlier rants, lets hold judgement a bit.
Funny, I read that line word for word on one of those looney left facebook pages.
In a rare move, ministers were not given the advice from the NPHET ahead of time, with priority given to ensuring that the exact details of the document didn’’t leak before the Taoiseach Leo Varadkar could give his address to the nation, which was not followed by questions from the media.
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